A civil discussion of the right of a mob to deplatform people. And also teenage tomboy comanches beating up predators.
Predator 5 is fucked already and I'm heartbroken.
That part about the gay frogs was actually 100% true. Just sayin lol
Nobody is stopping anyone from having opinions. Private companies have the right to moderate their platforms however they see fit. Donât like it, use another platform. Canât find one that will let you be a douchbag, make your own. Canât make your own, learn how or get together with like minded people and change the laws to suit your agenda.
I find it hilariously ironic that the people who tout market deregulation and free enterprise are the ones begging the government to step in when that shit backfired on them with big tech.
At the end of the day, the government is just used as a cudgel to beat down the people you donât agree with, but the cudgel swings both ways. Right now the right are feeling the beat down and their tears are just as delicious as the lefties when it happens to them.
Itâs true that endocrine disruptors and estrogen mimic compounds are leeching into the water table and having effects on biomes. Itâs âdebatableâ as to weather a group of globalist elitists met in a smoke filled room and planned it that way. Some people in this forum probably think so, and that itâs directly related to tomboy comanche girls beating up predators.
Plot twist, maybe thatâs why the predator loses in P5. The interdimensional demonic forces planted estrogenators in the water supply on yautja prime and caused a collapse of the family unit. Forcing male preds to flee in search of a planet of un-gay-frogged-water to settle, and start over. It was only a matter of time before it happens here thoughâŚ
Punching you in the throat, hanging you for being a witch, telling your boss to fire you, these are all silencing.
I find this whole âintolerance cannot be toleratedâ approach hilarious.
Free market doesnât mean unregulated market.
âprivate companies canât discriminate in hiring practices, thatâs regulatedâ
âprivate monopolies should discriminate against people for having conflicting opinions thoughâ
Ok wheres the consequences for the digital mob using the platform as a vehicle to get people fired? Right there are none, so this is why they do it. Powertrip larping somewhere they have power - an authoritarian technocracy that lobbies for policies in its favor to prevent people from suing.
Youâre not defending âfree marketâ youâre defending pathological corporate freedom. So just replace the word government in your post with big tech.
I mean they actually made climate change a plot point in why Predators come to Earth so, maybeâŚ
Thatâs actually by definition, exactly what it means⌠Learn to word.
So do I man. My abs are bullet proof from all the laughing Iâve done over the last few years.
I donât know the contract that Gina signed when she took the job, but Iâll wager thereâs a clause or two in there that said something about maintaining a positive image or not expressing views or opinions that reflect poorly on the company in social media and public appearances⌠Itâs pretty common. Either way itâs up to her bosses to do what they want with it.
Youâre seeing it now⌠Look at Disney stock, or ratings for the Mandalorian. Gina has her own mob now.
Laws can change. Get on the phone with your reps.
Iâm not defending anyone. Iâm clearly stating the relationship between actions and consequences and the current environment that facilitates the âcancel cultureâ. I donât care what your opinion is, but when people express them in a public forum and donât expect consequences thatâs just being childish. Words mean stuff. Choose them wisely.
lol that isnt what it means just because it says free.
Theyre free to compete not free to discriminate in hiring and firing practices & infringe on others.
What? There are still market regulations.
And only a thing because of corporate lobbying
Is tanking show ratings enfringing Disneyâs rights? Even if people were ACTUALLY able to silence Disney, a corporate entity is not a person. A boycott is not a mob. You serious?
Is firing someone for making herself and your company look retarded, infringing on their rights? The company obviously thought that she was a risk to their image/profits and severed ties. If she has legal recourse she should take it.
It kinda takes a âmobâ to boycott successfully. So yeah, I am serious. Thatâs how capitalism works.
When in SalemâŚ
Sigh lets try a very simple analogy -
If you make listening to rock music legal, but everytime someone sees you listen to rock music results in you getting fired from your job or attacked makes the legal status of listening to rock music meaningless. The whole point of making something legal is that the government, which we assume is the most powerful entity in your environment, cannot prosecute you for it and will defend your rights in force. Difference is today the government is not the most powerful entity; the mob and big tech is.
A corporate entity is not a person. You can boycott a corporate entity in an attempt to shut them down sure, you cannot silence a person in an attempt to shut them down. Any form of organized suppression of speech goes against the very notion of free speech.
Man listenâŚ
If the movie follows the amount of damage parrying with a knife does to a predator in PHG, I think the movie is going to be a 5 minute long short filmâŚ
If Iâm throwing a birthday party for my son, and the drunk religious neighbor shows up and starts preaching a sermon about globalist pedos and I forcibly remove him from my property, is that infringing on his freedom of speech? Fucking hell dude. Get it through your head. You cant scream âFireâ or âGUNâ in a crowded theater either.
Last I checked, Big Tech didnât have the nuke codes, nor did it come knocking on your door with guns drawn if you donât pay your taxes. GTFO with that nonsense. Big tech has exactly as much power over you as you let it. You can literally chose not to use social media at all and live a full and complete life. I have plenty of friends/family that get along just fine without facebook or twatter. Terrible analogy bro.
Thatâs the problem that people have. Everyone is being trained to lump anyone they donât agree with into one box on the opposite side of the âisleâ⌠The truth is that people donât fit into neat little boxes on shelves. Itâs just much easier for them to identify âthe otherâ that way. Itâs the most dangerous aspect of the current political climate IMO. The âred v blueâ bullshit has to die. Since when was gun rights a âright wing ideaâ or Pro choice a left wing thing? Itâs fucken stupid. You can be both. I am.
Please tell me youâre not being serious when you said youâre a fan of Israel.
Last I checked the government didnât have pathological freedoms
This isnât protected speech because it infringes on the rights of others via inciting panic. The bounds of liberty exist at the point where your exercise of your own liberty would deprive another man of the exercise of his liberty.
As for that awful backyard analogy, your not kicking him out for yelling about pedos youâre kicking him out because heâs trespassing in your backyard.
Again, corporations are not people. Any âprivate companyâ that accepts federal reserve notes is automatically a member of the public. .
As such, and because many large corporations are engaged in INTERSTATE COMMERCE, they are FULLY SUBJECT to the Constitution and may not engage in any type of discrimination that would be in violation of the same.
Youâre comparing yourself to a public platform which is more akin to a sidewalk, and if you beat the shit out of him on a sidewalk youâre committing battery not âconsequences.â
Is this the power of american public schools? Did they not teach you why you canât pull the fire alarm? Or did they just tell you that you have the freedom to pull the fire alarm but youâre not free from the consequences of pulling the fire alarm?
Global warming was a plot point in P2 also. Back when it was called that instead of âClimate changeâ.
Yes, and neither is âhate speechâ⌠Or anything that calls for violence. At least thatâs whatâs been outlined in the TOS of many social media platforms. Posting Nazi shit on twitter or waving a nazi/confederate flag in public will have the same effect as yelling âfireâ in a theater to many people. We literally fought wars about it. Millions of people died over it.
Yeah, maybe I forgot to mention he was invited, got drunk and then started the sermon, after which I âsilenced himâ⌠Youâre a thick one ainât you?
I didnât say I beat the shit out of him. Just grabbed his arm and dragged him off my property and told him to fuck off and donât come back. He could then try to press charges or whatever, but there were enough witnesses to report his disorderly conduct in support of my account. Was his rights of âfree speechâ still infringed?
And nothing that happened to boobopbeep infringed on her exercise of liberty. Sheâs free to find employment elsewhere and start her own social media company if she likes. MURUCA!
Youâre arrested for disorderly conduct in intentionally attempting to create conflict, incite panic etc not âhate speech.â
Might want to check into the legality of âIntentâ before you try anything on someone for being obnoxious.
Along with those words is an intention to go commit an actual crime. Same with personal death threats.
Saying that DC is full of demons in human form and the american aristocratic class they take orders from deserve worse than life in prison because of their crimes isnât a threat. And some guy yelling about killing all pedos is not a personal death threat nor a crime in itself.
Yikes it doesnât matter if you invited them to your birthday party. Has nothing to do with what heâs saying, heâs trespassing once you donât want him there and the police can remove him. I hope weâre all learning something.
Yeah noâŚ
Lmao. Heâs tresspassing so you might as well just shoot him your analogy doesnât have anything at all to do with free speech.
Same could be said for users of social media platforms that violate their TOS⌠Cuss too much on Youtube, get demonetized. Upload sexually explicit content, get banned. Maybe they donât like posts about gay frogs. Too fucken bad. Itâs their platform. My backyard is my platform. I donât need the cops to remove your ass. In either case your first amendment rights are not violated. You arenât protected on private property, from the owners.
Right. And neither does Carraro getting canned, Trump getting trumped by twitter, or Sorbo getting de-facebooked. Thanks for listening to my ted talk.