Pointless topic

Thunder-Cats · January 23, 2021, 4:53pm

I will agree that the mission are to short. They either need to space them out more not have to many parts of the mission in one camp. Or the ones that can be speed run should have them staggered spawn.

Robo_2696 · January 23, 2021, 4:54pm

The extended mission timer should be just implemented, no need to easy a specialization on that

Robo_2696 · January 23, 2021, 4:55pm

?

Thunder-Cats · January 23, 2021, 4:59pm

So do you know the mission on backwater where u basically destroy a tech stargazer base. Find hard drives and blow up computers and antennas so on and so forth. If you are a experienced player on a team or squad one player will find the hard drives while the other two blow up the computers and antennas. To speed run the mission.

So to offset this make it so that the two destroyable parts of the mission are not spawned in yet and stagger them apart so you have to complete step 1 before starting step 3 and 4.

Better?

Robo_2696 · January 23, 2021, 5:19pm

I see
With that context it makes sense.
And yeah I know just about all of the mission speedrun strategies.

Bobby_Bill · January 28, 2021, 4:24pm

I wonder if they’ve seen this thread or the Predator specialisations Ideas

KameofWar · January 28, 2021, 6:26pm

well the mod in their stream said specifically “our devs look at the feedback section primarily for things to add or adjust in the game but we are a small studio so not everything is possible”

Bobby_Bill · January 28, 2021, 6:46pm

I see I didn’t watch the stream, more important stuff popped up. So what else happened

KameofWar · January 28, 2021, 6:50pm

they said there is “cool stuff” in the pipeline but they can’t talk about it until the blogpost in FEB and uh they really like the elevator in excavation

and they won every single game they played as FT and one of their players used a spot in excavation where they hid inside a rock which was funny

Bobby_Bill · January 28, 2021, 6:55pm

The hid in a rock?

KameofWar · January 28, 2021, 6:57pm

it’s in this clip
also in the general thread for the illfonic stream today there is the VoD from the perspective of one of the predators from the community in case you want to watch that

GothamsPredator · January 28, 2021, 7:19pm

So they exploited a flaw in the game? Awesome. Here comes all the FT’s feeling encouraged to do the same. Yet I get grief for castering these type of dudes when they do this. 😩

Cadillackid · January 28, 2021, 7:21pm

Wasn’t a flaw really. Map design. Little hide hole cubby in the cave probably for that specific reason. They didn’t do a fantasma

GothamsPredator · January 28, 2021, 7:26pm

Huh? So they gave the FT a burrow? Well damn can my pred at least get a specialization already!? Lol

Bobby_Bill · January 28, 2021, 7:29pm

So Illfonic cheated, and they’re OK with that?

KameofWar · January 28, 2021, 7:31pm

Weather they knew or not it would be impossible to prove we just know they did

Bobby_Bill · January 28, 2021, 7:35pm

Well hopefully that spot gets patched, so they can’t cheat any more

KameofWar · January 28, 2021, 7:39pm

IDK man at 2s you can see he is INSIDE that rock by the textures popping around him i’m pretty sure the predator would’ve only seen the rock and not him maybe the thermal might catch him or he might see the gun poking through the rock

Cadillackid · January 28, 2021, 9:53pm

It’s from the 3rd person perspective so that kind of graphic appearance is possible. Kinda like seeing up under the pred mask at certain angles I’d think.

KameofWar · January 31, 2021, 4:27am

What do we do with PC Deathsquade Parties?

what we would legitematly need is more effective tools or perks with more specific uses or just unique passives that help in some way dealing with what PC players tend to be good at but not necessarily universally good which is landing bullets being well co-ordinated and finishing missions quickly tracking predator easily through sound

having the ability to spend V to get equipment wouldn’t help

having things like “if spotted predator takes 10% less damage” or “for every FT member within 20m of the predator increases predator damage delt by 4%”
or “after losing 25% of your hp your movement speed is increased by 5% stacking up to 3 times halved for airborne movement” “if FT member is within 5m of the predator they produce no movement based sounds” If a FT member is 30m away from other FT members predator takes 5% less and deals 5% more damage" “during target iso/CD overload predator regens 1% of his maximum hp per 2 seconds”

then for weapons it would be things like a speargun (so it’s not a projectile weapon functions like a single shot bolt action rifle reloads after each shot) explosive tipped arrows different types of plasma casters (a rapid minigun like one an single shot sniper version(no splash dmg) then what we have now)
a weapon that allows the predator to move the FT physically which requres some kind interaction of the said FT to break out of like a whip or something

gear like a drone or some kind of summonable mob to force FT attention radio jammer to take away the minimap or other parts of their UI a grenade like object whose AoE applies a slime that slows the FT or eats away at their ammo (takes away say 10% of the FT ammo when hit by it or 1 of their equipment chosen randomly) a dart that marks a FT member shot by it and reduces any healing received they get by 20% for 2 minutes

among other things that i don’t feel like coming up with more ideas these are what we would need increasing the shit we take onto the field isn’t going to help us as it would either take too long to use (medkits) or it’s simply not as effective against co-ordinated teams Beartraps and Motions/decoys

albeit giving the predator a dedicated button to throw equipment like the fireteam has would be MILES better as then we don’t have to waste time equipping the item using it then re-equipping the weapon we were using and just get shot or ran down during the process

as right now we have a problem of OPTIONS

we have 4 tools (basically) we have the ranged tools PC HHPC Bow: Used to poke damage at the enemy for medium/low risk - medium reward
melee tools All the melee weapons: used to burst down a single target at extreme close range for high risk - low reward
CC tools Netguns beartraps used to force the FT to do something that prevents them from doing damage or helping teamates High risk - High/medium reward
Misc tools mo detectors audio decoys medkits does something that doesn’t directly help the predator deal with the fireteam Low risk/low reward (medkit is of course a higher reward)
useless tools wrist launcher does basically nothing you shouldn’t even bother equipping it

of these options we more or less only have one thing we can use for nearly every situation which doesn’t always work well as the risk is medium at best against high end players which at that point you are very much relying on your opponents to screw up which 15minutes isn’t a long enough time for that to work out

it’s kinda sad this is going to be here instead of elsewhere you can also tell i’m doing my Campaign prep right now so all my game design gears are rotating

i don’t feel like typing this stuff out again nor do i want to to rot in off topic this seemed like the best place to put it