Roof slam is fair

Oh yes, if its the predator using exploints then its FINE. Now if the FT could shoot trough walls… The entire forums would be ablaze! If the entire team is inside a building shoot trough the windows/door. Also just WAIT OUTSIDE. They fail the mission if they don’t come out. Do you understand that?

The problem with this its that it has no counter and its an exploit. I can’t see the predator coming, I CAN"T SHOOT BACK and most of the time they are in hard to reach places. There is NO COUNTER PLAY. People don’t go inside buildings just to stay in there and wait for the predator. We have MISSION OBJECTIVES to activate. If the predator has half a brain he can just wait for someone to go in and just about 1 shoot him.

But if camping was such indomitable force which I had no means of countering save through roof slamming then it wouldn’t have been possible. They were reasonably competent and should have been able to hold that if I wasn’t roof slamming as this thread would have people believe. That was my point.

Yeah that happens all the time. Usually after a forced stationary slash animation like a normal attack, a bug, before letting you go into that to recover.

You don’t even have to wait. Just pick them apart. You have ranged weapons and a PC with AOE potential. You can break a camping Fireteam and for I honestly prefer that because it makes my job easier taking all that pressure off my shoulders :3

I do it all the time! Even when the buildings are empty man, I still slam the shit out of them!

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It seems Illfonic don’t care about game at all. Ppl already starting to grow bored. When ppl get bored they start troll. When player start troll other ppl becoming frustrated and leave game.

If one guy is completing an objective why are there four of you huddled in a room standing on top of eachother? It takes one person to complete an objective.

It baffles me that people get “roof slammed spammed” when it takes 8 seconds to recharge at minimum and disables the preds use of energy & roots him in place as the most punishable mechanic in the entire game. But it seems like anything that’s able to force people to spread out gets bitched about, look at the combistick.

It does not take 8 seconds to leave a building. Ever. You can move and syringe in 8 seconds. There’s really no excuse for just standing there getting slammed for an entire minute & not punishing the pred for being that obvious. Unless you’re all just in there huddled around medkits because you want buildings to be a safe zone covered at all angles where one guy just shoots out the door while you all heal to full for free. It’s not about being “in the building for 15 minutes” its about just being to run into a building and heal with very little ways for the pred to contest. “O the pred threw his spear in there?” Okay he can’t come get it who cares here have a medkit, if he comes in just bodyblock the door. Pred is trying to snipe you through the doorway? One person go shoot at him and wow he lost the trade for nothing while you just walk back inside and interact with the medkit.

After this you’ll be complaining about slams on people who are reviving. And lol at the guy playing holier than thou for plasma castering through the building instead of slamming as if there’s mechanically a difference seeing as they both take 8 seconds

im indifferent. if fireteam mains say its OK then its ok. I dont really use it. but i thought it just didnt make sense to go through a surface… grenade explosion shouldnt either imo…

But either way, keep or go its not something i rely on much… only when whole team camp a room then i guess they deserve that.

This will probably be nerfed, because to an inexperienced a FT, this is probably as fun for them as a zerker combistick rush.

I just hope they leave enough of it (or give something else) to help the Predator to continue to pressure the more experienced FT.

Ive never seen a decent fireteam need to camp anywhere to be fair. but i do know what you mean.

Have a feeling this was done because certain weapons were much less effective when they could collide with tree trunks, logs, fences etc directionally. Sounds more feasable to just allow the flashbang or whatever to hit through the fence or palm tree if there’s a predator pre-firing on the other side rather than punishing the person who threw it without perfect god tier accuracy onto a flat surface with no obstacles.

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yeh i can agree.

How exactly do you shoot through a roof to punish a roof slam pray tell? That only goes one way where the Predator can hit through walls and such but they can’t.

Now you just made some actual arguments for why this isn’t necessarily overpowered well beyond that of anyone else here. Yeah. It does take a good while to recharge. It also has a short radius so it’s not like it can hit the entire space of any building and spreading out can negate it. Some decent points but they also kind of undermine your argument.

You say this ability to hit through ceilings and walls is necessary for this slam to combat camping and many here claim that it is the only viable counter, which is plainly ludicrous, but by your arguments it doesn’t even do a necessarily good job of that. So why don’t we replace it with something more effective and more innovative? You say that it’s easy to punish a Predator for roof slamming… but if you are blinded and slowed and just lost half your health or so and didn’t see what part of the roof he hit above you, which you can’t shoot through by the way, how exactly do you intend to punish that? It’s just giving him free potential damage for basically no reason.

So while your arguments here are the most thought out of those I have seen here not only do they not prove that this asinine mechanic is necessary… but it is entirely vindictive by its nature. You are basically telling Fireteams that if they don’t want to constantly stand out in the open with a giant bullseye on their back and aren’t capable of reliably dodging and dipping constantly or take a pounding and give a pounding back equally that they should be forced to heal out in the open where they could be sniped and if they refuse to do so you are going to punish them by an attack that hits through walls. And also like you said too. You wanna turn off newcomers to Fireteams and make Predator ques even longer? Make it so Predators can hit through walls on these poor bastards that are still learning the ropes. But that’s what people like right?

Being punished for tactical decisions not by your opponent anticipating and having prepared for it with some strategy of their own or sneakily setting the area to prime it for that engagement or whatever, just kind default give it to them more or less. And if they don’t even have health left and shit, all bruised up and hunker down in a building for one last stand… you should just automatically win? I am sure at that point you have basically already won anyways but at least give them a snowball’s chance in hell. What are you so afraid of?

The whole thing boils down to SOME Fireteams turtling in one spot to avoid taking as much damage as possible at the expense of only being able to do damage if the Predator is reckless and pushes too hard so you want to get free damage on them without every exposing yourself to any threat of taking any kind of damage. Does anyone else see the double standard here?

id rather the slam be a big damage single target hit or impale than an AOE. use mostly to close in and get one while mudding up or something if thats the play you want to make.

So many stupid assumptions being made here…

Not worth my time.

Funny way of saying you don’t have a response but to each their own.

I don’t think I agree with that. It would be a gnarly bitch to pull off and given how it can be dodged as is it would be incredibly difficult to hit anything with.

15 love hearts and 58 likes wow predator mains flying right out in numbers with this fucked up broken game,lol, so your saying when fire team are in a building doing an objective its fair predator can drop them from the roof lol

ILLFONIC you best start doing something about this game because theres 4x fire team vs 1 predator per lobby so when it comes to numbers cheating fire team with this broken feature would result into a lot of money being paid back on refunds because im sure fire teams out there thought they paid for a fun balanced game OBVIOUSLY NOT lol

thats what i used to think about the slam but i dont think it would be as tough to pull off as you might think. the times where we already land directly ontop of someone mudding up or caught in a trap or helping someone up are numerous. i thought about an insta down inpale but even that i think would be too OP. A direct hit + 1 claw hit to down minus the cool down animation would be a cool precision distance closer rather than the AOE IMO. basically as strong as the spear throw.

Maybe what slam could do through the roof is interrupt the FT interact instead of damage