Samurai has serious balance issues. He is simply not performing well.

#1

The samurai has quickly fell behind all of the other predators for various reasons. While his melee stacking is good there isn’t anything he can do that someone else does better.

Some of the issues include…
-very low energy regen, while this supports melee combat, it is generally a risky play
-Strangely slow speed, even Cleopatra is faster, who is supposed to be a tank
-generally low stat distribution that someone like valk has better of. Valk also does the ghost build just better.

atm he really just a worse hunter, its sad to see him and his counterpart, his katana, at some of the lowest rankings.

before anyone mentions using axe with him, should you really need that for a pred to be any good?

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#3

In general, thanks to the Cleo Speed Buff I would argue that Samurai, Elder, Viking, and Berserker, shit, all Classes should get speed and other buffs to compensate for Cleo out ranking them all, but for Samurai’s case, I have these suggestions.

+1 Perk Point

+0.4 to his Movememt Speed.

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#4

is this an agreement or nah

#5

doesnt that just make him .1 above cleo

#6

Yes, but only barely. Speed is a very noticeable difference. Actually, I’d say +0.5.

To further make him different than Cleo, Cleo would have to lose 3% Melee Damage to lessen the Melee Powerhouse she can be overshadowing the other Melee Preds. She would share Zerker’s base Melee Damage this way and keep Viking as the highest base Melee Damage, fitting his class identity.

#7

there should be more passives. what if samurai did faster melees or something

#8

I would say to make Samurai drop Smoke Bombs along with the Flash Bang once Second Wind is Triggered. Sells the “Ninja” aspect of his Character while giving him a sneaky boost to his slower play style.

Maybe Slams too, idk.

#9

samurai not a ninja but good thought.

#10

Couldn’t tell you
Haven’t played since Viking and don’t own samurai

#11

Heavily inspired by Ghost of Tushima like how Viking is Kratos lmao.

#12

bruh… what?

#13

But yea, after looking at Samurai’s stats I’d say:

0.5 + Movement Speed, changing from 9.5 to 10.0

1 + Perk Point, changing from 10 to 11 Perk Points.

+100 Total Stamina, changing from 1050 to 1150.

New Passive: Upon Triggering Second Wind, drop Smoke Bombs in addition to the Flashbang Effect.

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#14

Nerf Pred
Buff FT

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#16

Yeah after debate in the discord instead of increasing health like I was saying…. FT damage should just go down so it benefits everyone r

#17

Gonna tell you right now so no one else hurts your feelings. You’re using both Samurai and the Katana incorrectly.

Both are Hit-And-Run types.

Using Samurai, you’re gonna wanna keep tabs on your opponents every chance you get. Definitely use Motion Trackers and place them on frequently travelled paths but out of sight. Typically on walls, low ceilings, or below where they’re standing. Also make sure to use thermal when they forget to mud up. Marking them lasts longer than motion detects.

Once you have tabs on them, you need to scare them. Use your plasma caster from cheeky angles, either on distant trees, from behind a sneaky corner, or hopping and shooting. Be careful hopping and shooting, though. He’s got 2 hop n shoots before he’s exposed and is unable to leap before he’s being laid into.

If you notice them going different routes, very briefly splitting up, that’s it right there, you’re chance to punish. They’re going around different corners, punish the most distant one. Use your katana to hit him once with a heavy and a light and then leap away in the opposite direction. Find a safe spot to observe from, but make sure you’re still close enough to be able to leap in and punish. This is why you’re using trackers, keeping track of where everyone is.

Then it’s basically rinse and repeat. Don’t be afraid to change tactics as needed. If you find yourself against a good Spotter, well then you’re shit outta luck if you don’t take him out first.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask

Here’s my build for him

Samurai - Warrior/Ghost

Yautja Bow
Katana

Medkit
Audio Decoys
Motion Trackers

Large Pouch
Adrenal Boost
Iron Side/Modified Reserve(if you feel you use too much energy)

#18

You need to use Axe with Ghost on him.

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#19

Again as I said in the post, ghost axe shouldn’t be one of the only viable builds, especially since valk does that better

#20

not what he’s supposed to be, though. He’s supposed to be your go to melee guy not a hit and runner. If i wanted to hit and run i’d play scout or exiled.