Scout has been power cliffed

#21

Stamina difference from assault to Dutch does not matter. Running? Just use slide, I don’t run out of stamina when sprinting even on my support. Yeah, useless, pretty much…

Hip fire is not a damage boost, not on Dutch 2025 and only 87 one you should be aiming down the sights with very small exceptions. Shooting from the hip makes no sense the vast majority of times. Assault if anything has a damage boost over Dutch since he has SECONDARY damage, couple that with bane and the broken SMG and see the numbers. Imagine shooting at range with AR or snipers from the hip, you’re not going to hit shit man.

So in closure, Dutch has nothing that would really put him above the Assault. Even if you don’t want the radar or ammo bag/med kit, you can still get the self revive witch is pretty good in many situations, like when the predator downs you and uses you as bait.

Also imagine in a random enviroment where nobody is going to bring you ammo bags and med kits.

#22

Dude I’m not even reading this. More health more damage case closed

#23

I keep seeing many many scount , specially from pc premade squads. It’s very good class with double time perk. We have tested and it is faster than recon.

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#24

One of the new metas will end up being all Scout Pre-made’s.
Speed running the objective with a combo of Dexterous and Bane. All with double time and then a couple personal perks.

Never engage unless Pred attacks, demolish the AI and shoot every Alarm. Teams of 2, one works the other covers.

At least that’s what I see happening soon. Poor Pred’s aren’t going to know what to do.
(Playing a Scout in pubs is still a liability. You need cover they just don’t give.)

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#25

Well, FT scouts might understand how Zerkers feel now. Talk about pointless…

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#26

Oh, yeah man. We both got shoved two handed under that bus.

#27

Have to disagree. Without perks they have their strengths and wrakness’s. And with fouble time and thick skin those diffrences are the same. As for gear yes Dutch wins but the scout wins on passive as his revive speed paired with dexterious make him a valuable medic.

#28

Dutch with double time has the speed and stamina of scout but just has WAY more HP and passively more damage too. Ya feel

#29

I run Dexterous now on my Scout and a lot of pick ups end in being downed. While you do pick up faster, a Combi throw, slam, bow shot or plasma blast are all possible and likely. Do you run Thick Skin as well or Double Time?

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#30

It’s all bull shit pay to win.

#31

What? You’re incapable of reading a few lines? HE DOES NOT HAVE MORE DAMAGE. If you hip fire after any competent predator you’re not going to hit SHIT.
Assault has MORE DAMAGE since he has secondary damage + broken SMG.

#32

That smg only works point blank. Ya know what’s easy point blank…: hipfiring. Yes Dutch has more damage.

#33

lol hip fire only works close range. The simple fact that you just suggested you fight a predator at RANGE with hip fire demonstrates you have no clue what you’re talking about.

Also SMG is not point blank is short range, point blank is the knife out.

I am seriously starting to think you play just predator or you’re just bad at the game.

#34

I’m not trying to b me rude. But we are going in circles here. If you prefer having med kits, assault is the class for you. Yes. But that’s it’s. Assault is solid, and can carry med kits. Yes. But Dutch out performs literally everywhere else. And it’s frustrating because it’s like, super super blatant

#35

Dude what? I did not suggest it works from range you just can’t read. I said, do you know what works from CLOSE RANGE? hip firing lol. You aren’t just gonna put words in my mouth to sound right.

#36

The fact that you can’t grasp running thick skin PLUS Bane PLUS having a passive damage increase from hip fire PLUS having more base health PLUS having maxed stamina to boot out ways bringing a fuckin med kit tells me you just wanna be right so bad. I’m sure you’ve played the game but I clearly you’re just stubborn and hate being wrong because this is not even a contest. Dutch is just way stronger

#37

You again post that the added gear only translates into med kits. You again suggest that assault only has the added gear. You have far more choices then that and you are left with 1 point AFTER medkit/ammo bag so you can take even 1 more tool.

The fact that you said SMG only benefit up close from that perk so hip fire is superior indicates you where referring outside of t hat short range. Hip fire if anything works ONLY in close combat just as SMG only worse. There is no reason why you should not aim as you shoot with an SMG who does better damage now with that perk. Then you need to look at other secondary weapons.
The magnum. Its secondary, its already high damage, now even more with this perk.
Z-07 this SMG is good even at medium range +

Thick skin, assault get’s OWLF trained, the difference is minor.
Bane both classes can use
Hip fire is not better by any degree then secondary damage.
max stamina is useless. The 1 bar is USELESS, completelly irrelevant. Its not going to help you at anything.
Yeah, he has more base HP 5 of it. Wow!

How the hell can you even say Dutch is way stronger. Are you joking? The difference is small any way you damn slice it but assault does pull out ahead.

#38

Ok dude then run assault with some of the BOOSTED ass items you goon. If you take med kits away, and use your increased gear for UAV you’re trolling. If you use them for frags congrats Arnold gets those too. More sustain absolutely stomps the rest of the items and is the only reason assault would be picked. And yes, Dutch can run the perk combos assault runs as well. DUH. But what can he do that assault can’t? RUN THE STRONGEST AND RECENTLY BUFFED PERK COMBO OF BANE AND THICK SKIN. Dude you lose this one take the L. If you wanna say you prefer assault because med kits, right on I can track that. Every team needs one person with med kits. But as far as overall member Dutch is not just stronger he’s way stronger

#39

So run this logic through your skull. Secondary damage buff can only be taken advantage of where? Close range. The new smg buff is only from where? Close range(the damage fall off is MASSIVE unless he’s right on top of you it’s not doing that broken damage) alright great glad we established that. If a predator is RIGHT INFRONT OF ME how are you so thick that you can’t grasp hipfiring an assault rifle from that range is not only viable it’s EASY? Then we have the added bonus of you don’t need to switch weapons to get your damage buff AND it applies to BOTH WEAPON SLOTS. You have 0 argument here. You have to literally spit nonsense to make your point make any sense at all. You’re assuming incompetence of the person playing dutch to make assault bettee

#40

You have yet to show how he is way stronger. Just because of some extra health when Assault has more gear and more damage? BULLSHIT!