Stop spoonfeeding fireteam

#1

Predator is severly disadvantaged in any situation where the fireteam isn’t new or noobs at the game.

Here’s a list of issues that i’ve experienced thus far:

  1. Parrying - Why in the world would me, a berserker with a spear be parried by a glorified security guard with a 6 inch knife.

  2. Parry stagger - Why would i, a predator become staggered when said glorified security guard mystically parries my spear? Parrying for fireteam should be removed or on a cooldown.

  3. Snipers and revolver - Regardless of perks, these guns will melt you.

  4. Fireteam strafing - With all the space gimicky gadgets the predator has, the current weaponry is highly unusable to actually hit a moving fireteam, plasma is easily dodged by a little movement. In consideration of #1-3 using ranged weapons is defeated by strafing and #3. When melee attacking as predator, anyone doing #1 and #2 will easily make you vulnerable for someone with #3.

I.e ranged predator and melee predator is easily defeated.

  1. bigfoot - Me an infamous hunter, a predator, cannot remove the microphone in my shoes and the speakers that broadcast my thumping footstep. Any fireteam with headphones can easily detect where you are coming from. Noise makers will not help since my footsteps can overpower any other sound.

  2. Loudmouth - Me again, infamous hunter,stalker and predator cannot stop chirping while in stealth, i can understand the theatrics of creating fear in a fireteam, but this only creates fear for a new fireteam, any experienced fireteam can easily detect how far and where you are stealthed.

  3. Restless - Me again hunter boy, Being spotted removes my cloaking!? am i cloaked or am i wearing a reflective suit? Once my restless body moves, even a blind man can seem to see my predator in cloaked.

  4. Mother nature, the true hunter - Besides me being alien asf, i am entirely unable to shoot my space laser, bow or any other weapon through the tiniest of leaves and shrubbery.

  5. Mother nature, the elusive - Boars!? what mythical creature is this!? I can never find a boar when the game gets going, sometimes i don’t even see a boar near the start of the game. But have no fear, the fireteam has a first aid kit, wherever AI spawn as well as they’re able to carry syringes and medpacks!

  6. Second wind? or is it my passing wind? Have no fear, with a second wind you might be able to get a chance to get back into the hunt!? nope, you can’t outrun any fireteam because they can follow your thumping footsteps and your 1/10th reduced speed.

  7. My glasses broke! - Well now you’re definitely in for it, your mask just broke and you’ve become three times as useless as you originally were, but have no fear; you as an amazing and experienced predator always come prepared for a loss of your critical equipment. Oh nevermind, i only brought one mask.

I’d of liked to see a possible repair after a period of time or even a pickup stash on map, a good hunter always has a backup.

  1. A lack of armour on the whole - regardless of what class you are, not scouts (they’re useless) your perks can only help you so much, i’d expect some sort of basic reduction for using the famed berserker who likes to get up close and personal.

  2. Oh no! i’ve been spotted - my god, the single handedly most annoying thing about spotting is that its infinite! Please add class restriction for spot tracking to recons (forgot if this is the correct class, the one that has the spotting side note) and allow area prings for other classes, all classes should not be able to track spot a predator, and even still allow a cooldown on this, force them to communicate via voip.

TLDR: With the current balance, playing predator is such a mess there a way too many disadvantages that you are unable to make up for with skill and talent. The fireteam just has too many spoonfed advantages.

The way i experience the game is aptly quoted from discord “z KillerMuffin#1410”
"
Bad Fireteam/Bad Predator=Fireteam wins

Bad Fireteam/competent or good pred=Predator wins

Good fireteam/Good pred=Fireteam usually wins"

Reference (not official discord since illfonic doesn’t have one):

https://discordapp.com/channels/601563384303058954/703366719179325501/704813353859809370

Please let me know what you guys think about my feedback, or what you would like to suggest to make it better. Or let me know with what you disagree with.

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#2

How would anyone know the Predator is disadvantaged its only a Berserker with a Javilin. Its getting old and will only help this game die.

#3

Could you make a tl;dr version? *:D

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#4

if fireteam good = predator lose always, attempted to make a tldr if you’re interested now lol

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#5

the game basically needs a complete balance overhaul.

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#6

I agree with this 1000%. I hope illfonic listens to us. Seriously combi stick is only good weapon and i dont use it just because it just isnt even challenging

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#7

Yeah but I just feel like they’re going to cater to the whiney babies that play fireteam because they want the game to be easy

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#8

Tbh i’m having a hard time following your sentence.

Berserker with a combistick is the one of the only viable build against a decent Fireteam.

#9

I dont get how anyone can believe it is balanced. With all the mechanics the fireteam has at the moment, it really looks like the predator was supposed to be at least wice as strong.

Then i’d be ok with a half useless cloak, the spotting, the 2seconds full heal of the humans, the reviving, the reinforcement, the mudding, the healt and ammo packs the rest of health and ammo spread upon the whole map, the short missions and the lack of ai enemies for the humans.

In the trial i remember so many more camp alarms. So many more npc the fireteam had to fend off, where you as a pred were actually able to locate and observe them… but now they have half of their missions finished when i finally find them, and then i’m just in an unenjoyable rush

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#10

is that so? I’d imagine it being insanely more fun if you actually have time to observe the fireteam. A full fireteam can be finished with a mission in 4-7minutes, that’s barely enough time to locate them (since mudding blocks isolation) and time to stalk them.

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#11

The trial was indeed, insanely more fun predator gameplay. I’m still speechless about how the actual game feels.

Theres actually sonmuch to be reworked and overthought… might have to wait 2 or 3 month until there happened spme good changes

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#12

damn, well the game has my best wishes and patience since its the only Evolve replacement i know about.

#13

Well then it seems you didnt have a problem following my sentence and now they nerfed fire team so other builds are now viable for pred, which now other builds but heavy are also viable for fire team.

#14

I can’t believe you would complain about parrying. Stop mindlessly spamming melee and just mindgame it. Walk up to someone and stand there. If they were hungry for a parry, they will slash the air - once you see them commit to a whiffed parry and they attack the air, just attack them after. Easy damage. Or you know…space your hits so the parry isn’t timed right.

Alternatively, just net gun people who respond with consistent parry. Can’t parry in a net. Down and retreat, plasma charge the body.

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#15

Half the things you said literally made 0 sense, but who am I to say anything. The only thing that matters is that this game didn’t last more 2 weeks

#16

Honestly as a fireteam player, there really isn’t a need for a spotting marker. The green icon that marks the predator. If you spot something you’d have to point or shout out a degree/direction. Spotting hardly ever works for me though. Usually instead of the green icon i get the eye icon even when spamming the spotting button.
I think spotting should be removed entirely or at least only for recon class to use. Like each class you play gets an actual role for the FT

#17

It’s almost as if you are saying that Pred mains need to learn skillful plays and strategies GASP. Careful, brother, that talk is blasphemy on these forums. All the Pred mains want is a hyper-unrealistic Predator that instantly wins with the press of one button