And people believing democracy is a real thing and that they are actually choosing their leaders is an absolute joke.
The 2nd Year of the Ukrainian War
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If you want an example of a real surveillance state, itâs China.
Do you understand how vital the petrodollar is and why the US did what it did during the 9/11 era?
Your absolutely right but were on that same track heading in that direction but unlike china ppl here are resisting because of americas foundation.
Are you arguing that was the right thing to do yes or no? If your arguing in favor of the patriot act then we wont see eye to eye. It seems your looking at it in the way the everything being done is for the better when thatâs not the case.
I understand the pros and cons of the patriot act, yes.
No, we are not anywhere near the level of China on surveillance state.
Lookup Tencent, Wechat, CCP surveillance, social credit system etc.
I better not find out youâre kicking and screaming over the TikTok ban hammer.
I wonât answer your question until you answer mine. Are you pro the US being the sole super power on earth or not?
My allegiance is to the republic, to democracy!
I wouldnât say near but Iâd say were heading in that direction. And no im not bent iver tik tok thing i donât care for social media i was raised old school. And to answer your question yea i would BUT with out imposing shit on other countries basically making more enemies. Im all for a strong country which is why my point about this globalist and crooked politicians hearding ppl to meet thier (politicians) ends when its more detrimental to the citizen and the countries principles as a whole. I think we can be the super power but we donât need to abuse that either.
The patriot act may have SOME good things to it but also has other things that would be unconstitutional or at the very least unfair. Almost like the 1st stimulus bill where it said that small businesses were to keep employees hired on in order to receive financial help from the gov. And if they didnât keep thier employees hired they wouldnt get money to stay in business, while other large corporate businesses didnât have to keep employees hired on to recieve money. Now why this is a priblem us because hiw would small businesses be able to pay employees if they werent having business because of the lock downs. The comparison im making between the 2 is thereâs always something that fucks us over and helps the big guy. Which goes back to my point that they always drop the ball at the most crucial time and when they do its in the gov. favor and never in our favor all while parading that they care and want to uplift, protect, and serve the ppl qhen thier actions say different.
I think the old school mentality stuff and the current political correctness or wokeness is turning you off on the US.
But itâs ok to stay true to your roots.
I still call Trannies trannies, and f@gs f@gs.
And yeah, the non PC Trump shit was great but heâs gone for now, so it is what it is.
When it comes to geopolitics at the moment the US is making the right moves if you look big picture.
The only turn off on the war would be to stop shooting 20k drones with 140k missiles. Shit doesnât add up and a gross waste of money.
How did this affect you personally?
A majority of the frauds I know fought as hard as they could to stay unemployed. If you make less than $27 the hour you were better off on unemployment.
It didnât effect me personally cus i was working all thru it but my point is the ppl who are running the gov are the problem by policies they flaunt as good while sneaking in shit that ppl wouldnât support and then you go to a global scale and consider things such as WEF having plants in many countries including the US, Canada, some European countries, etc. and how most of those countries fell in line with the covid lock down stuff. Then a group looking to change things in countries ranging from a-z fie thier benefit doesnât seem so insane as the media would have us believe
So because it didnât effect me doesnât mean i donât have to care about how it effects small businesses which are important for reasons that will have me writing another paragraph lol
My point is youâre just cherry picking things to bitch about.
You can go to any country on earth and find something to bitch about.
If more people were informed, more people voted, maybe things would be handled different. But the majority of people clearly donât know shit about local politics, national politics, or world politics.
They watch a documentary like Loose Change and all of a sudden they think they know wtf is going on
Dude you know damn well voting wont change shit. The government and politicians have this shit set up how they want, anything we see is just a show.
Companies, CEOS, âelitesâ they all run the world.
The corruption runs so deep shit wont change.
Things wont change unless drastic measures are taken, but people are afraid of the chaos that would ensue.
And itâs hard to blame them, because things would definitely fall apart since theres too many people pulling too many different ways.
You want people to get more educated on shit they literally cant change or affect? Whatâs the point.
You want real change youâre gonna have to figure out a way to get everyone to chill the fuck out and want to work together.
Thatâs the very first step.
Serious question clutch, cause its something I havent been able to figure out.
How do we get everyone to calm down, and let go of whatever It is that their holding onto that creates strife?
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To you they may be lil things to bitch about but look at the country and what thier doing. If you canât see the big picture then thereâs nothin else i can say. I got a homie who thinks just like you do but you know what i been saying a lot of this way before trump came in and I been feeling vindicated because none of what happens is a surprise anymore. So he would consider me a cinspiracy theorist and would challenge me like your doing and would say the same things like show me where your getting this and i would and he would argue why its not the case but as things kept happening proving my point he sees that theres something to it. So i donât claim to know it all bit i know what im seeing and Iâve studied counter intelligence so i donât fall for âofficialâ reports cuz 9/10 its bullshit. So after a lot of things coming to light heâs still got his own views but now is open to considering certain points because you can see it happening. So i respect your opinion and you make good points but until something substantial happens like cleaning out the corrupt and following the constitution and not trying to loop hole around it then im still gonna stand on my square.
If i was finding thingsbto bitch about Iâd be crying for lgbtq right systemic racism pronouns and all that my concerns are where the country is headed if certain ppl in politics get thier way. And to your point about voting ill admit im one of those because the 2 party system is shit and they strong arm anyone out of political races whether presidential and so on if you donât fall to either party so thatâs a problem as well althougj you may feel differently about it.
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Ill end with this bro and correct me if im wrong but your only considering things at face value and I donât mean gullible i mean like the issues that the news presents when thereâs a lot more happening behind the scenes.
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So whatâs the end game youâre getting at?
Was it the New World Order and a surveillance police state for the US?
If voting doesnât matter how did Trump win his first election?
When no one wanted him to.
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The the questiin but you can see the power they have with media, celebs, and so on that thier working to sway us for some reason. We know they want power, control, take guns, have say over your kids, brainwashing the youth, pushing socialist/communist ideas, universities in step with teaching this new way of thinking and i can go on but deffinately not a coincidence.
I have a too who works in homeland security he goes back and forth from washington and houston and i donât see him much but years back I asked him but in a way that i wouldnât come off as the media likes to portray conspiracy theorists, but I asked about some things and his answer to me was âyou know i got a friend that is a conspiracy theorist and hes said a lot of things and all ill say is hes not completely wrongâ and that was it he wouldnât say more but that day was a family get together and my other tio had a box of dvds that he was saying take what you want and as i was there the tio whoâs in HS pulled out braveheart and said take this one and watch if you havenât seen itâŚit will inspire you" and winked. I mention that because ppl in agencies like that are under oaths and NDAs so they speak in ways you have to pick up on and i learned that studying counter intelligence and it hasnât lead me astray yet
i didnât say voting doesnât matter i said i havenât because of how its set and how they make it where you have to choose between 2 evils so to speak and i always felt like if you vote fir em and they pull some bs you donât like you canât complain because whether you knew or not you voted them in which gies back to how they string arm independant candidates by giving no air time or simply smearing. Tgey do that between parties too but ive already said how i feel about the 2 party system
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Give me a nice inspirational quote from Braveheart that you donât have to Google.
Well it sure as hell fed the extremist on the right, so if I had to take a guess, put em in to feed the whole us vs them bullshit weâve been seeing so much of.
I know you cant be blind to how the media pushed certain angles and alot of them push different agendas.
You never answered my question btw.
Which I feel is important.
Before people end up tearing each others throats out, how do we get everyone to chill out and work together?
Because if we dont figure that out, stupidity and chaos is what weâre going to be left with, on a level thatâs too destructive.
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Thatâs Interesting man. Where did go to start learning counter intelligence?
What books were you reading? Or were these your years with the CIA?