Note from the poster: when I talk about the predator being like a mouse and the FT being the cat I am just using hyperbole to indicate that balance is off, and I don’t actually think that.
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It’s much worse lol
The Game is balanced… just not how many here seem to like
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If you play only to hunt the predator and do nothing else your of the minority, there is a whole other part of game that your not playing, people that play one side dont know the entire story caused they have a biased outlook from playing one side, playing both sides helps you understand each side better and also play better.
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The Bear trap changes make them vastly more useful when baiting more aggressive FT’s into the jungle brush.The perk cost changes have made Sixth Sense extremely rare as well.
I’m also seeing a lot more mid-tier PC fireteams than I’m used to. Formerly it was only the most hardcore of PC premades, so its a refreshing change than just full sweat mode all the time. Also seeing more experienced PS4 players with the free trial weekend, which was neat! I hope the trend continues.
As for hunting defenseless animals, there is an achievement for going “Wristblades only” … which does offer some amusement.
Ya well, I been here on the forums for a while, and given everything that’s happened, it’s safe to say that the devs have chosen to cater to the ft mains who bitched and moaned, because they refused to work together and play better.
Why they chose to listen to ppl they should have not listened to, Is beyond me.
I’m all for balance.
And if we’re talking 1v1, things are honestly kind of balanced. But for a 1v4?
Hell no, ft op.
Idk how many ppl believe me or not, but my complaints really arent so much for myself.
They’re more for the preds me and my teams have killed because a lot of ft guns are just to strong.
So sure, ft feels more threatening for me on pred, but when I’m on ft this shit just feels way too easy.
And yes xan, including with randoms.
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Could be, thing is I don’t like playing predator. I am not going to waste my free time doing something I don’t like.
Now before you asked, when I started playing this game I did try the pred. I was high enough level to run berserker with bow and combistick. Won 3 games in a row. There were obviously not PC premades, just randoms in que. Thing is, I liked nothing of it. I like the social aspect of playing a team game.
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I just wish killing the predator was as hard, rare and exciting as killing Jason on the F13 game. I remember when I killed Jason for the first time with randoms I was over the moon about it because it was so rare to happen (until the dark days where it would happen every match). I wish saying “I killed a predator!” Had as much weight to it as saying “I killed Jason!”
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Exactly. Doesn’t have to be ultra difficult, but if they made the game closer to what I previously said, it would feel so much more rewarding. As much as he doesn’t see it now, I’d bet even @Xan84 would like it more
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YES
Killing predator should be difficult but not Jason levels of difficult, in all honesty if should be difficult to defuse the bomb that should be the hardest thing to do in game, that should be the achievement not killing the predator surviving the aftermath.
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I agree with you but lately every predator match I have 9/10 most rage quit on me 😔
Great game, sore players tho 🤷♂️
Of course. He shouldn’t be as tough as killing Jason given how preds aren’t as strong as Jason. But it should still be damn difficult and a last resort get lucky type of thing. Or work extremely well as a team. And with your idea of a stealth rework sort of thing it would naturally become harder to kill the predator and just a whole lot more fun.
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Thing is the vast majority of people bitching and moaning around here are the pred mains, not FT mains. In other social media I have no clue.
What they choose to do is help out the lower players because the pred que was getting to 20 mins. So help out there and reduce the que time or have predators die in que instead. That is why everything they gave now is aimed at a lower skill rating. Self revive? First SMG? anti-cloak grenade? Even that radar thing, its push and use. Take no skill.
1v1 is not balance my man… Not even close. If the predator is any good he is going to destroy the FT. I’ve soloed a ton of preds but its because they where not good. I just dance around them, parry and shoot at them as they try to run when I get hits in. Thing is, this works against bad players, have someone good and he can kill me with nothing but spamming the elder sword.
Over the weekend with potatoes in my team I’ve had an excellent win ratio. Thing is, lots of bad predators running around. Good ones? Really hard to take down unless you also have a good team.
Rage quit before they die?
It’s not a rage quit if they are completely dead.
I do see your point - I just think if Illfonic adjusted the game based solely on what top tier players (in particular coordinated PC FT teams) are capable of, we’d have a situation where droves of the player base would leave out of frustration at not standing a chance against a Predator player.
I do really like your ‘Instead’ suggestions. I’d love a Predator game with those type of gameplay mechanics, but sadly I think it would take a different developer to bring about that type of experience effectively - particularly in a way that would make it enjoyable to play on the FT side.
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Eh, I refuse to argue this. I dont care what anyone thinks.
And the only reason is because like I said, I love even fights. I hate one sided fights.
I’ve purposely held back in many games when I saw that somebody couldn’t keep up.
And it wasnt cause what I was playing was broken, it’s because the other person most likely had not mastered whatever it was they were using, or still learning the game.
So given that I don’t only think about myself, I’d say I’m a pretty good judge of what’s balanced or not.
And like I said, for a 1v1, this game is pretty balanced, all youd have to do is increase ft hp to maybe 500 or 560, since they already more than have the dps, and increase their mobility.
You would have a perfect 1v1. Or lower the pred health, but it gets torn through so fast, I’d vote against it.
As a 1v4?
HELL NO, this shits not balanced at all.
Not only that, I’ve played all aspects. I’ve played ft, I’ve played pred, I’ve played in a group, I’ve played with randoms.
I’ve analyzed all sides.
I’m telling you, my feedback comes with very little bias. I’m just stating what I see, and know to be true.
But its like you and other ppl, cause you see a few good preds, right away you think that oh hey, he can do it, so every pred should be fine.
Wrong. No they cant.
And sure you can try to apply that on ft, to try to turn my argument on me.
Well you cant go based only on premades, cause blah blah blah.
Thing is, I’m not.
Ft doesnt win off skill, they win almost entirely because of their guns.
I mean it’s hard To apply skill because theres no room for it. There so limited in their mechanics, that all their strength is purely in the guns.
Yet on pred?
You have to play smart, you have to consider wtf is happening, the difference is night and day.
Pred=hard
Ft=easy.
As for me personally.
All I want, since this horrid unbalance is all were going to get now, is for pred to get more mechanics and cooler shit, to be able to combat the ft menace.
Preds gear is honestly too simple and straightforward.
But if they can make ft as deadly as they did now, I’m hoping they do the same for pred.
As for what they can do specifically, I have no fkn clue.
I would love grab, throw, carry, and strangle mechanics for the pred Tho.
I would also love to be able to skin the fireteam.
I would absolutely love the ability to add mods to each pred weapon.
Such as a status effect added to the pc.
Which I also wanted for the ft, but given how much damage ft does now, I really dont see how they deserve it.
In conclusion, keep things as they are now, but for the love of all that is holy make pred cooler and have more complex options.
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More predator tech would be a good way to balance it, hopefully when we get shurkein and falconer drone things will be different, the Predator should be op in its ultility not hp, gadgets and overall technology should be why the predator has a chance/advantage not cause it has a shit ton more hp, also BUFF VOCAL MIMICRY!
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I wish mimicry was directional, not sounding like the pred hacked into your coms.
Just saying.
Unless it was to give faulty info to lure the ft from the mission objective xD.
Might not be lore friendly, but hilarious tho.
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Honestly it would work better if lines were appropriate for genders of fireteam your playing againest not just random, theres no sense of tactality for using its more of a fan service than being part of your toolkit unless you use the roar to lure the ft to an ambush if you pretend to take alot of damage, but any good ft knows if it isnt painted green its not that low on health.
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That too. I think it’s more just to taunt the ft, not really to use as a tactic. Idk.
How it is now I mean.
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This is the dumbest shit i’ve read since I last visited the forums. “Not being able to wipe the FT within 3-4 minutes” ??? Well they’re god damn missions only last like 3-4 minutes… or are we playing a different game?
If I do not jump into action trying to kill them right away and decide to go tactical? Guess what… THEY FINISH THE MISSION!
That is the “Tactical” route you’re all spittin like mumble-rappers but you ain’t even good.
Or you can jump in and kill them with melee and most likely down 1-2 of them. Get stunned by the 3rd guy and die (most likely)… If you run away to heal they’ve all been resurrected faster than light speed and continue to finish their missions. Basically back to square one!
The AI is too easy on the FT. The objectives are no challenge at all. You have healing kits EVERYWHERE (and that is NOT counting what your class is carrying)
Same goes for AMMO.
I enjoy playing as FT because I win 99% of the time. The only times I’ve lost is when some ass leaves the match or the whole group splits up thinking they’re smart waiting by the reinforcement radio -.-
No matter how “tactical” you play with the Predator, you are 100% having a harder time winning compared to playing FT.
Fuck me in the ass with a carrot whilst you tell me “Erhmagerd you gotta use tactics, play smart, use ranged” NO SHIT SHERLOCK, what do you think I have been doing? Scrubbing the floor at home to reach lvl 150? Gtfo.
Predator = Underpowerd
Fireteam = Maybe not overpowered, but have too many advantages.
TL;DR -> This game SHOULD NOT have these assheads running around saying “derp predator needs to be tactical, challenge etc” I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE!.. Say that about the Fireteam. Because obviously fireteam should not have challenges…
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