We could, we could each do a video as Pred and FT?
The "How (not) to Predator" Guide
So me and a friend were in a Private match, he turned on his cloaking right in front of my and he just faded from shimmering silhouette to totally invisible, like it was if he wasn’t even there whatsoever. He would run around the nearby obstacles like vehicles, find somewhere to hide and cloak and I could never find him when he was invisible. No matter what the backdrop was (trees, buildings, up in the tree with the sun directly behind him) there was no visual sign that he was there. I’m pretty sure PC players can do this, as Cartoonz has done it in his videos. He was stood at the top of the end hanger stairway on the Derailed map cloaked, and three Fireteam members ran straight past him unawarea. They even collided with him but were so ‘in the moment’ didn’t register it was him and probably assumed it was each other and the stair rail.
I could, but I would make people more aware to become godlike against the average Predator. Honestly, if you want to have some great tips on FT: join the https://discord.gg/9zaZcFt Discord channel. A lot of great players are there. Both 4 player teams and 5 player private matches.
My name there is the same as here. If you spot me online, join in and ask :)
Yeah man, I am in that same group :P Fair point to the FT thread, maybe once the pred gets a buff then push it out…
You mean together? Or just showcasing different systems? Cause I dont have anyone to record with, and I thought cross invites werent working?
I don’t think the Predator needs a buff right now. In another post A list of bugs that can lose you the game I’ve stacked the amount of game-breaking bugs Predator vs FT.
Like I said, the matches I lose as Predator are 2/3 times based on a game breaking bug. Always against good teams. I “main” FT lately so I shouldn’t be that amazing at Predator. Yet… I keep winning against randoms. So… losing closely to a pre-made, would tell me that the game is close’ish to balanced. We can only really confirm this once the bugs are out.
That is still broken? Damn. I thought you could still make a match and cross-invite. Just not make a cross-party.
I hope that makes sense. Can you add PC to your friends, or DM me your player name I can try from my end.
@meowera and I just did some tests, at least on my end with graphics on high I could not see him. I am willing to provide the original video and I challenge anyone to spot the Predator in the first few seconds. Basically, in the first 5 seconds before the AI interrupts us.
I am not able to see him until 16 seconds in, when he starts to move.
I do not think my assistant’s first language is English, so it was a little bit of a rough test, but I am willing to repeat this with anyone. Just let me know.
He also grabbed some video but I am unsure as to exactly what he was capturing because either his mic was not working or he was not speaking.
Edit: I am dumb, @meowera was messaging me on the forums because he had no mic. Sorry man! I think we got what you needed. He stated I was invisible as Predator in high and medium settings.
cross platform invites were SUPPOSED to be available day 1, but who knows when it’ll be available now
So many things not working lol. I hope they fix all this mess soon. Like real soon.
Here is the video from my Perspective with @meowera as Predator.
Let me know if you have trouble getting it, it should be public but you never know. This was taken at 60fps in OBS on PC. All graphics on high, motion blur off.
Disclaimer: I do not FT so yes I am even more incompetent as a FT than as a Predator. And yes that is “even possible.”
I would like to repeat these tests at low settings, so if anyone has time and is interested please let me know.
EGS: Draedark
I’m officially prove this video :) and i have same results with low and medium graphic sets.
They need to hope for their sake they start communicating AND fixing ALL the issues with the game rn as soon as possible. It’s not sustainable to be doing what they are doing right now; both with dealing with Pre-Order issues and the plethera of bugs, glitches, and poor optimization
Has anyone completed my challenge above and found the Predator in the video above before 5 seconds?
Is anyone who says that they can see a cloaked Predator willing to do a similar test and record/screen shot it to show what they see?
Are you not missing the point maybe?
Standing still will make you 100% invisible. The only way to find the predator is by guessing correctly, or based on audio cues. Cloaking and crouch moving isn’t 100% invisible. It’s the same as moving and/or running.
What I’m aiming at is that players expect the FT to have issues finding them when they are cloaked. So they stand ontop of a rock, moving and aiming, and think it’s weird that 4 players aim their gun at their location and light the place up.
So I’m saying that I look for that “blur” all the time. I listen and look for that blur, because most Pred’s believe they are harder to find. Harder yes, but far from impossible. The moment they stand still, they are gone from the FT’s view, but a good team will have a general idea of where you are (with the right map knowledge that becomes worse).
1 game is not enough… most of the time games end in 5 minutes or the Predator is missing entirely even tho he doesn’t leave the match.
Happy you’ve had a nice run. Maybe I’ll be as lucky as you are and actually play against a decent Predator on PS4. Happens way too rarely… I actually got bored because I felt that there is no threat to play against most of the time. It all became a weird running simulator of sorts.
Thank you for editing #7 to say crouch-move instead of just crouching. This is 100% accurate and helpful to new (and some vet) Predators.
Then onto the comment about YouTubers?
"Can I ask you where you got that information? Because I’ve seen a few youtubers claim this, but it has never worked like that. If it did, it hasn’t worked from the start.
If his name is Bloodthirsty, again, that man ego is a bit bigger than his actual knowledge about this game. He will tell you more than actually is true. He will claim OP, where it’s mediocre."
We must have had a miss communication then. If you meant cloaked and moving (crouched or not) the entire time I apologize. It stands to point out though, that YouTuber video proves what I believe we have now cleared up to be correct. A still cloaked Predator is 100% invisible to the FT.
I would also agree that maybe on some rare occasions due to lighting or game glitches this may not be true. If anyone finds these, they would also be good to bug report and possibly add to helpful posts like the one the OP started here.
Correct, I had to be a bit more specific on that one. Weird enough I see predators creeping around so much I fear that some “fake news” has been shared on cloaked crouch walking.
Solid write up @SilverbornReaver. I’m taking notes.
Personally, I find myself getting killed when I push too hard. Yesterday and earlier today had me scrambling to Heal after dipping in too soon and aggressively. I thought I was safe but I was fed a Lead Salad.
Adding to your Strats, I’ve grown to love the Net Gun and how it helps close the gap between you and multiple Fireteam Members. I’ve found that it helps with bounding them when they try to gang up on you, or baiting others closer once you trap one and everyone closes in on you. You just have to be careful so that you don’t use up all of your Ammo too quickly; it helps a lot when trying to round People up when attempting to escape.
Don’t forget that the net gun has a few flaws that we punish as well. First you have to stand kinda close, or be on high ground. Second is that you will take damage if you use the tool during a fight.
But I agree, the toughest matches we had were with Predators (often hunter class) who ran bow+net. If you know who is the biggest danger of that team: net them.
I only used it to make melee fights safe. Generally I only use it as an opener + a second move. I never use it more than I need to, simply for the fact that it is a strategic tool.
The only way to counter a net gun is to stay very close together as a FT and make sure you pressure the Pred 100% while he engages. But that is one of those FT tips I’m trying to not tell: “Always put pressure on the Predator, always”. *But you didn’t hear that from me (yet).