It is an exploit but people are defending it because of T&C’s mostly streamers, if they acknowledge its an exploit and twitch or any other streaming platform catches wind then they can get banned for it. I will say that at first it needs to come from the developer that it is recognised as an exploit then comes the ban hammer but at the moment Illfonic will not want to get anyone banned that is streaming their game, they want/need the publicity so I get the feeling it will be a stealth patch that will remove the exploit from the game without ever fully acknowledging it to protect streamers which is quite hurtful since they are actively showing people this exploit…
Twitch user slam bug spammer
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I saw the video of Unwary very quickly getting out of that net which was a little suspect but I will say that going up against Unwary/Shield’s team are the best matches I’ve had to date. It was challenging but it did not feel like they were exploiting or cheating at all. I’ve had some matches since against people who would put them to shame but only because they were clearly exploiting or using macros as I could see it once spectating them.
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Streamers only goal is viewers I cant really blame them for the fact that most gamers are looking for this stuff to cheat to win, and streamers are streaming what gets people to watch it
Time to go slam root cancel as a pred. Why you might ask because the time to kill is near 1 second if all ft members are shooting you after slam while you are stuck in the spin my combistick animation for near 3 seconds(it might be 1-2 seconds in reality).
heres some statistics for you guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=331&v=k-rKOSixUDI&feature=emb_logo
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I honestly think its a bit too OP to be kept in, like I said, if used right then it can cause utter devastation to the FT.
I also agree with you that the Pred needs some buffs but this is definitely not the way to go about it, its stacked too much in preds favour. I actually want Preds to be more “scary”.
Like you said I have played with unwary and in all of those matches we technically “won” all of them, I want it to be more gruelling, when coming across a good pred with a decent FT I want to feel the attrition on both sides, I want to be on the edge of my seat trying to expect where the next attack is coming from but using that leap slam it would just leave me deflated feeling “ok we got this kind of player this game, how fun…”
This should in no way be added to ranked. there is no easy counter to it. (also the queues are terrible as is so adding a ranked mode would not benefit anyone until they are under control)
I agree with you, Macroing is not the answer, I dont do it because its not how the game should be played, neither is exploiting leap slam, I would like to see them both patched out.
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That is why in the newest patch they added a blind and slow to the FT, I can tell you 100% it works, I have lost sight of the Pred so many times because of the flash (admittedly when the pred goes into second wind but its the same flash as the slam) it does considerably help, unless the FT were aware of you before you did the slam in which case you shouldnt have done it in the first place that was just your placement error.
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Just going to wait untill the devs do something about it.
I do agree thats why they added the effects.
Depending if the winrates start to get skewed towards pred players they will fix/tweak it eventually.
Even with the blind you can go straight into SW if you don’t get the blind on 2 of the 4 Ft members. There are other solutions to this like making all the weapons have the same root time after slam etc etc.
We will just have to see but currently there is no reason not to use this to your advantage.
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Lets say we get your desired balance on ps4 lobbies only it might be impossible to balance lobbies with Ps4 and Pc players or only PC lobbies if they keep the two platforms on the same patch build.
Interesting stuff nevertheless.
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Shortening the time required for the Predator to recover from the stun after the slam.
Those two whole seconds that it takes for the Pred to start moving again is more than enough for any fire team member with - let’s say - SAWZ-50 lucky enough not to get blinded by slam to easily second wind the Pred.
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u can also just blind fire in front of u depending on where you remember the pred being at lol, it’s pretty bonkers
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butter knives already do a ton of dmg with heavy hitter and yautja’s bane, even more dmg would just make downing a pred in an even shorter amount of time
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I’ve done it multiple times whenever i do play FT, if the pred slams in front of you simply aims down sights while blinded and let it rip, it’s silly. Yes, younger FT’s are going to be “stunned” and “blinded” but more experienced FT’s are just gonna scoff and let it rip
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if u have decent 7.1 headphones it’s stupidly easily to hear Predator noises lol
GiantChiprel gets wrecked in private games, and he can’t take it when he loses. He made up constant excuses and even rage quit when me and some other guys beat the shit out of him. He called us ‘macro users’ just because we had the tracker perk and constantly kept him spotted. He can’t take it when people know how to counter him. He’s toxic towards console players that he facerolls due to them being easy to out-aim and out-maneuvere when using a keyboard and mouse. Don’t even get me started on Tangent… that guy is 10 times worse…
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