What are METRICS of the Pred Perk: Fast Hands?

#1

So apparently the predator perk called Fast Hands provides an interesting and debatable opportunity for fast combos using Plasma Caster and CombiStick, and some other stuff like Wristblade slices at 200% speed (i dont know exactly where this comes from), but the reason its not in the arsenal is that we can’t gauge the effectiveness of it.

Sure, it switches weapons quicker…but that is only a metric. The effectiveness of switching a weapon at opportune moments are few in the heat of combat. When you’re a predator in the trees it makes very little difference. However, when youre talking about combos, thats a different story.

Often times it feels like its a gamble and we can’t pull Combos off correctly.
So what’ss the solution to this? Remove it altogether? and call it an exploit?

Apparently there is a thread stating that we should get rid of it like its the work of the satan himself.

I like to think of it as a blessing in disguise. What is your take? Is it worth keeping? Will it make you better? Is the combo so short changed in the heat of combat that its a gamble to pull off? I mean how many times have you tried it in the last…30 matches as pred? once or twice? Otherwise, whats the point of using Fast Hands to begin with? REMOVE IT! ADD SOMETHING BETTER!

#2

I wouldn’t quite call it a combo as you can practically plasma cast and wrist blade at the same time, dealing 72 damage, every time. In my eyes a combo would be doing the Elder sword hits (which in itself is a combo) then plasma cast then follow up with a wrist blade attack, with no breaks in between.

#3

I dont think so

#4

I like it
The perk is fun and definitely different from the flat damage perks

#5

You know what i can say after reading this topic… illfonic will end up nerfing “fast hands” “fast combos” “plasma caster” “combi stick” and “wrist blades”… just based on previous interactions of people making similar posts… the problem here is not the perks its their servers and how ping affects how game gets the data processed

#6

Are you saying that its difficult to do combos because of those pings? Ive seen videos and they are mostly from private Solos just to demonstrate. There is no evidence that they can be accomplished in every day matches.
Again, i still think Thunderwolf and Flash_Gordon is a freak bot. They were the only exceptions to persons who could pull off combos.

I think Illfonic have bot agents fulfulling the legendary players.

#7

Nah im saying from previous actions that were taken againts this similar complains, predator was nerfed to the sky, then fireteam was nerfed after that… and then came like NOT NEEDED perk nerfs that nobody asked for or did anything wrong, i still can do quick combos and was able to do them without any perks that affect speed or melee weapons…

I know for a fact cause i run energy based perks + damage reducing only

#8

i think combos are overrated. There is too much happening in such little time that combos are really things we are imagining. THe likelihood of combos making any significant time difference is irrelavant. So …this Fast Hands seems altogether irrelevant.

Its like saying a Perk will give us a 10 ms time difference. Its totally unnecsseary
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#9

Yeah i hate doing perks cause it downs them… and u cant cancel them properly… i just do like slash then stop then slash

No im just worried illfonic will take out something else from this topic that they wanted to do back few months but they did not cause it would be called shadow nerf… but now im worried the more we feed them these data about stuff we have no clue whats going on with them, they will just do something wrong and like nerf something that was fine and keep this bug going on or idk what it is… i just know i can do this as a fireteam and im able to like combine shooting a SHOTGUN + KNIFE at once or REVOLVER + KNIFE and it usually second winds predator within 10 seconds if he keeps at it and trying to down me…

So im just trying to point out both sides can do this without any perks

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#10

I don’t think fast hands itself should be removed. However, if it can be used to bypass cool downs and/or animations, that needs to be specifically removed through a future patch.

#11

Not like illfonic will do things “SPECIFICALLY” they never do it that way… they do it as a whole lol and end up fucking up entire thing or not fixing it at all

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#12

Fast hands is nice, but you only get 3 slots for your perks and all the other perks are just better.