He also doesnt seem to realize xenomorph drones only throw themselves at a target when they have the numbers to zerg them because they’re not actually dumb animals.
They grow in a matter of hours in a hostile unknown territory and completely overcome the odds. As the ultimate survivalists nuking them from orbit is the only way to be sure, they’re basically a living vietcong tunnel. They’re all the extremes of guerilla warfare. Head on warfare isn’t what makes them dangerous.
Those two were my boys, I always loved using them, they’d clear out everything and due to their armor were resistant to everything in the game including facehuggers. I miss that game, only thing it lacked was a skirmish mode.
So can preds to humans
Ya. Because we haven’t devolped technology that integrated our tecg into our nervous system.
Those are hunting qeapons not war weapons.
Our hunters bring semi autimatic rifles to hunting all the time but no one brings fully automatics, nades, or even night vision.
Again, hunting tools. Not war tools.
Say hello to my lil friend! lol come on anyone else thought that 😂
Ok so we will just ignore these then lol
But they’re mortal!!!
What?
I thought the OP was just going to say “Adrian Fucking Brody”
Fully armoured hydra predator… now tell me we have better armour lol…
Add that to the amazing guns, launchers that can be quipped with it.
Basically ever predator you see in the movie are young (still children when compared to the age of humans, even Wolfe was fairly young in terms of a predator)
Don’t forget these guys
The Blazer was a Yautja clad in Military Supremacy Armor, nearly immune to acid, fire, and non-penetrating ammunition. Upon it’s back is a specialized Plasmacaster, which it would use to burn through swathes of enemies. The Blazer, in particular, was called upon to kill escaped Queen Xenomorphs who had escaped Predator capture when re-capture was deemed impossible. By adding a second blazer, called Dual Blazers when wielded together, the power of this soldier is multiplied and a Blazer can set alight an entire platoon.
You literally just said what I said earlier in regards to plot induced reasons of terrain and situation. Gorman literally had Apone collect magazines of explosive ammunition from everyone and even some didn’t even listen to that. Xenomorphs did have the home field advantage, but from what I see, the Hive Fight wasn’t a horde fight. A lot of the firing before Ripley arrived was blind firing into the shadows. If you really wanted to analyze that fight and listen to the telltale some of Xenomorph deaths (the elephant sound), It doesn’t sound like a lot of Xenomorphs died in the Hive Fight until Ripley came around, rescuing the Sqaud and forcing the Xenomorphs to get out into the open. What is a neutral area to you?
And I already said, it wouldn’t matter because Ripley was there to redirect them and assist them. If Gorman was at the helm of the A.P.C the entire time, Apone’s sqaud were goners the second they walked into the hive. Movie over.
You mean to tell me that Xenomorphs taking down Cheyanees and cutting the power aren’t exactly signs of intelligence? The Queen understood what a elevator was and used it in the span of a few seconds. It understood the concept of landing gear and hid inside of it. If you wanted to talk about comics, we have Queen Mothers literally sending random people nightmares about Xenomorphs before they encounter them irl for shits and giggles. The amount of precognition is astounding.
The later scenes were basically because the Xenomorphs figured the U.S.C.M were fodder holded up in a barrel at that point and decided to say fuck it. They even almost got the drop on them again but someone had the bright idea to check the vents. As for your powerloader idea, even AvP Extinction, Evolution, and damn, even Colonial Marines shows why a Power Loader against a swarm of normal Xenos are a bad idea. You become a actual punching bag. You want 10 souped up Military Power Loaders, basically EXO-Suits, against 10 normal Aliens in a field. That’s like saying you want to fight a one armed Predator in a fist fight. They’re still gonna kick your ass, you’re just making it harder to do.
Predator Weapons deliberately messing with Stealth is literally just a gameplay mechanic. Just how Thermal and Cloaking don’t cost energy in AvP 2010, but does in Hunting Grounds. It fits the nature of the game.
Predator - Human
Predator 2 - Human
Predators - Humans
The Predator - Humans
can you follow the pattern here?
if I remember correctly, cloaking does consume energy. Not sure if vision did, pretty sure it didn’t, but cloak for sure, though I think it wasn’t as punishing as it is on PHG
agh it irks me that people started shitting on xenomorphs after Aliens because they can zerg rush when they have the numbers to do so. It’s the individual ambushes that kill people and screw the colonies & aliens can eat through anything and turn it into a vietcong tunnel. Eventually you’re going to have to set your gun down after you think all the aliens are dead then you get kidnapped & that’s a wrap for the colony. The fewer of them there are, the more cunning they behave.
They win the long game unless you somehow get rid of every last one when there’s always ones in reserve finding some sneaky places to hibernate for YEARS. They’re survivalist bioweapons designed to pull a W regardless of how long or how many queens it takes.
Using any weapon decloaked you and vision modes did not use energy. I don’t recall cloak having any affect on energy either.
While Aliens was do doubt a actually good flim, you can make the arguement that it devalued the impact of the Xenomorph in some regard. May not have shown, but by the time AvP was a thing the Xenomorph became like it’s many copycats in science fiction that follow a Zerg Rush like approach sorely because of numbers.
I wouldn’t mind that at all for Xenomorphs, but not while devaluing the individual Xenomorph. Imagine if in Aliens, the U.S.C.M had to deal with a bunch of Big Chaps instead of Cameron’s Warriors. What about AvP? The Jungle Hunter versus The Big Chap? I dunno about you but Big Chap’s mopping Jungle Hunter across the floor like he did to Arnold.
James Cameron
Xenomorph_2099 Yes, I did repeat what you said since you said it and then ignored all of it. If you have the movie go watch it again and see the numbers on the motion scanners alone. It was a horde fight with xenos coming out of everywhere around them. They could not use most of their weapons, some still used a shotgun and what not but the most powerful weapons (like smartgun) where out of the question. Most of them, when attacked had pistol and some flamethrowers. No grenades, smartguns, pule rifles etc. Then an alien kills a marine (that is one) and that guy just happens to fire its flamethrower on a buddy killing him as he went over the edge, then triggering another explosion that killed more marines. Only after that some start shooting blindly with heavier weapons as the commending officers are yelling to hold fire.
I don’t understand why you insist on this fight when clearly the commending officer was a moron and the circumstances were very much against them. And the fact that Ripley killed a bunch of them I don’t see how that is not a plus for the marines. Ripley is human like time I checked.
Technology will always beat claws and teeth. Are they dangerous? Yeah, sure, can alien really be more dangerous then an army force of marines armed and ready to blast them to bits? Nop.
I think I’ve said the aliens showed sign of intelligence 2 times in that post. What I added to that is that they tend to zerg to fix shit. Neve read any comics, just movies and AVP games.
The suit I posted there is no a power loader man… Its an exosuit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5z3pZp3sbs&ab_channel=DemonicXeno
Here is a video of it mowing down the aliens.
More info here:
Nah man, I want marines using the best tech they have against aliens. Result? Aliens goes splat because tech > claws and teeth as I said before. The only thing, is the plot to not get in the way.
Eh? Its not just a game mechanics man. I’ve seen the movies. The plasma blast itself its just as big as launching a damn rocket and the laser points are still there.
Its just dumb!
@ ElderPreddy Sorry dude, don’t read comics, just watch movies and played AVP games and this one. The predator weapons seem to stay the same. The comics look to me like StarWars expanded unvierse where sith where blowing up stars.
Eshtion So I reply to someone saying preds can 1 shoot humans with humans can also 1 shoot predators and then you reply to me with predators can 1 shoot humans. Yeah, I know that.
Its not only because we don’t have tracking capabilities. If it was a self guided weapon flying about taking out humans? Sure… A fixed weapon on the shoulder is dumb on the other hand. You need to expose your entire upper body to shoot and there ARE angles where you can’t shoot (for one, your head is in the way).
The weapons tend to stay the same between all the media I’ve seen them in with the exception of comics. Even when they don’t go for hunting. Example Wolf in AVPR. Also it changes nothing that someone that uses stealth brings weapon that gives him away when other weapons are far more efficient and does NOT put huge holes in that target you want to take trophies from.
A pistol with a sillencer is not a war tool. Its a tool that someone using stealth can use to great effect.
Please tell me how I actually “ignored my own argument”.
This is why I said “on screen”. In this fight scene ( https://youtu.be/wVmu6uHEDHI )which leads to the Vazquez and Gorman Sacrifice scene mentioned earlier, you see a literal fuckton of Xenomoprhs entering the fight On-Screen.
In the Hive Fight Scene, we don’t exactly know if the Sqaud were actually hitting their shots like Fireteam Members with half a brain cell or were shooting at shadows, neither do we see how many Xenomorphs were really engaging in combat. If you wanted me to make up a treason for why that was, home field advantage, wanting to gauge the enemy threat, yadda ya. The fact that the Aliens actually cry out when being shot at in this scene as compared to the Hive Fight Scene in most bursts of gunfire supports my claim.
The “Xenomorph grabbing flamethrower” dude is the exact same argument I’m using against your 10 Exo-Suits vs 10 Xenomorphs death battle. The Xenomorphs would collaborate arguably more efficiently than said Exo-Suit pilots and then sow chaos utilizing their hit and run practices.
Ripley was more than a plus, she was the only reason the Sqaud got out alive out of the Hive fight, her intuition having faced the Xenomorphs before became a invaluable asset for everyone’s survival. Burke could have done so as well but he’s a company sucka.
Okay, sure, I loose Lore Cookie points because I called the Exo-Suit from AvP2 a souped up Power Loader but that’s exactly what the fuck it is, even your source, Xenopedia says it’s a Power Loader for militaristic application. The only Exo-Suits that don’t look like Power Loaders are Berserker Suits and the Exos from Extinction, not even mentioning Kenner because then we’d be getting off topic.
Okay, plot isn’t in the way? The Xenomorph Warriors, assuming you meant warriors when you said 10 of them would run circles around the slower Exo-Suits and tear through the metal with their bare hands. They pull this off all the time, treating metal like warm butter. You’re just telling them to go finger painting on the slow snails.
And continuing off of that, you want to see Xenomorphs with the best shit you ever seen? Ravagers who can tear apart ship hulls with their giant arm blades, or Crushers who pretty much take down U.S.C.M APCs like no one’s business? Monstrosities that are buliding like in height and literally just shoot Godzilla tier breaths of Acid, and cause localized earthquakes wherever they step? (Ask and I’ll bring source for this one, comes from one thing but damn is it sweet.)
The Plasma Caster is working like it did in the movie in a game is because movie accuracy? Everything else is for gameplay mechanics. Imagine Hunting Grounds if Cloaking or Vision, as essential tools as they are for Predator in the game, didn’t cost energy at all. Not even stacking on top of your energy usage, just nada. It would just become too easy from a gameplay standpoint.
If everything seemed to have stay the same, then just read the Aliens vs Predator Extinction Bestiary and go wild. And then probably play the game because argument aside, it’s really good and probably Canon. (But that’s a whole other discussion.)
