Who needs balance?! (Buff FT nerf Pred!)

I just did some testing and check this shit out

It took me X amount of bullets to SW a hunter pred
It took me exactly double that amount of bullets to get the pred from SW to a “secured body” state.

That just shows how fucked up pred health is. That’s why I go with the health bar, because honestly, that’s the only health that matters.

Me too. I thought it was weird, so I’ve tested it multiple times. It seems to be exactly 8% less damage, or 0.92 modifier depending on how you want to do the math.

It’s very complicated. I’m not even sure myself, but from multiple tests we’ve seem to figured it close to the answer. It’s part of the Advanced Predator Mechanics page.

Excerpt from our page:

Health/Damage Reductions

  • Low Health Damage Reduction
    • 500 HP >>> 0 HP
      • Damage Reduction is a Positive Gradient Slope.
      • 25% Maximum Damage Reduction.
  • BioMask
    • Health
      • ~475 HP
    • Damage Reduction to Predator
      • ~19%
  • Second Wind Health
    • 800 HP
      • 50% Global Damage Reduction
    • -13.3 HP/Second
  • Nuke State Health
    • BioMask absorbs all damage until destroyed.
    • Equivalent to class health
    • Health decay rate of 5 hp/sec
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Of course.

Maybe. 🤔

Have you considered that the passives, perks and specializations are multiplicative, not additive.

For example:

10% from Bane and 20% from duelist equals a 32% increase from Base damage.

Dmg x 1.1 x 1.2 = Dmg x 1.32

Assault passive, Bane, and Deadly

Dmg x 1.1 x 1.1 x 1.1 = Dmg x 1.331

Maybe this could be affecting your health bar sizes?

BTW thank you for not being a a douchebag and sharing your testing methods aside from acknowledging my findings may be correct. Judging by how the majority of people is around here I was expecting you to just come and say “No I’m right, you are wrong, bla bla bla”

Thank you, genuinely. If you ever want to do some testing, feel free to join out discord and I will be happy to help you out.

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yeah but duelist I found is ~30% by itself, without bane

I understand. I’ll be rechecking this extensively, as soon as I can.

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So this is what peace is like??

Thanks

I HATE IT

🖕

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This still happens, more than you think. Maybe it’s a PS thing (I have crossplay off for obvious reasons), but I can’t tell you how many Zerks, Vikings, and occasionally Hunters and Valkyries do suicide combi and sickle rushes and waste us. The latter two classes I (specifically, because taters) usually can melt, but the former two tank everything and I’ve seen them down all four of us in seconds.

these is how it is when adults talk and present their arguments

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But what about gittin gud?

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But what about this tho…

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So what though? Its really only redeeming when you beat guys at your skill level and a skilled FT has immense advantages

As long as everyone commits to shooting, you should wind any predator. Sometimes the best thing to do, if you’re already hit is to stand still and dump your mag. The predator will stay in place and get melted. If you’re with potatoes, you might just want to stay hidden and use them as bait. 😈

just keep in mind average accuracy % in the most popular FPS CoD is 20-25% so quite literally most players are missing 75-80% of their shots so that’s probably why your perceiving the heavier classes to be these unkillable monsters when in reality they are just as squishy as everyone else it’s just you have to land more bullets to kill them which most players can’t actually do even if the target is both slower and bigger

Anyone else notice that FT has been extra potatoey these past few days?

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Yeah

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Not just FT. I haven’t seen a good pred (solo queue with potatoes doesn’t really count since those winning preds would be in deep shit if I had one person with functional gray matter) in at least two weeks. Some with promise but they either need work on evasion or pressure.

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Just loaded into a round with three field medics. Promptly left round. Fucking scrubs. Seriously though, the fact that field medic is even a thing, let alone field medic with dextrous, tells you all you need to know about how Illfonic views this game’s balance.

Oh, and pred has gotten no new gear and only suicide melee weapons with meme tracking.

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EXACTLY