Also, Disney owns star wars. If you wanna buy the rights to halo go ahead and tell me how badass you’d make master chief because at this point, and always, he’s master generic fps hero.
Who wins and Why?
How are both master chief and Doom slayer not generic hero’s?
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My point is just like how books can be written off as non canon so can movies.
Plus the idea that they’re just made up along the way is dumb Because that’s most sequals.
It is available to the player.
Canon is canon regardless of source. IDK where you got this “only the main series is canon”
What’s even the point of this comment.
Thats because OG Halo’s writing is simple and sweet. Your awesome because your Chief doing awesome stuff, fighting aliens. Is he a bit generic? Yes but considering the franchise and execution, that’s not that bad.
You could consider his mannerisms character but you could also consider stuff like “give the covenant back their bomb” the same too.
In fact Master Chief has Halo 4 as well.
They both are, slayers just got more ability. Theyre essentially the same. Chief just never ripped anything apart with his bare hands.
I didn’t say they’re made up along the way though…
Yknow for someone who routinely has to quote the entirety of the comments they reply to… you dont seem to wanna hear what people are saying to you lol
No, it’s not available to the player whatsoever. In fact you need to melee some enemies multiple times to down them… but dude can knock a vehicle away with a punch in the books. This is why you stick to the source. When you go into the fanfics, things get contradicting quick.
The point of bringing up Disney is because you’re pretending myself, and Disney, choose to ignore canon. No. They own the material, they choose what’s canon. Cry about it.
Considering the franchise it became increasingly stale and had to focus on other characters so quickly because chief is a boring character lol
What do you call that
A. It’s not fan fic. There’s a difference.
B. Clearly the book is retconing gameplay.
Yes there are inconsistencies but that doesn’t make it non canon.
Just make sit poorly written.
Yes we established this. And 343 hasn’t said the books aren’t canon yet so.
Chief had 3 games all of which are loved and never got stale. Yet when the fans started hating the games it was Halo 4, which revamped the series for the worse. I don’t think the character was the problem.
And what’s with this I’m not crying about anything.
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…completely different words with completely different meanings. Literally everything is made up as it goes. There’s a difference between making something up to progress the plot concept, and another to give characters abilities they shouldn’t have but need at the time.
They haven’t said they are. That generally makes them fanfics. Would you prefer to call them ‘what ifs’? Cuz that what they are. If chief was supposed to punch vehicles around like rag dolls they woulda added the animation to the game for when you flip your vehicle over, but they didn’t because it’s just a means of saving yourself from the physics engine. When you punch a vehicle in the game, nothing happens.
If the character wasn’t the problem he would have remained the main character. After 3 games, it got stale and they had to move on from Master Chief. They realized he’s boring and has no real character. Then fans realized they flat out couldn’t write a good character period and yeah, the entire series suffered for it.
Coulda fooled me!
You know there is a difference In game media with how powerful someone is In lore vs. how powerful they are in game right? Case in point every fighting game character ever this can be true with most franchises even
Or iguess to put it in words since that might not be satisfying
Akuma from street fight can cut entire islands in half with his hands and kick military battleships so hard they split in half
Ye t when he punches chun li she doesn’t just die because gameplay
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I’d argue there’s a major difference in game types wherein it’s basically irrelevant to banter about who could kick who’s ass; its a fighting game, try it out, right?
The moment we get master chief vs like doom guy in super smash or something, it’ll be settled. Until then it’s aggressive speculation lol
For what its worth I always found this inconsistency pretty shitty for games. Even in cutscenes you see characters do things you can’t do in game and it’s like hey man… I wanna do that.
Well generally the point of these arguments is to flex the part of someone’s brain that reads through a narrative and attempts to interpret the events in a more logical sense comparing the 2 opponents and using argumentation to prove why someone is right
And imo using a fighting game to do that is super bad as in smash rosalina solos the entire cast in lore with maybe kirby being the only other contender
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That just sounds more like being pedantic and reaching. No harm in indulging in outside content but in terms of an argument its theoretical at best.
When comes to imagining these scenarios you gotta set boundaries relative to the character. If we’re talking predator vs Darth Vader, I’d say stick to what the movies present. Video game characters stick to video games, books to books, etc. Theres more brain power being used in working within boundaries than looking for a point out of order. It’s real easy to reach for outside sources for a point out of context. Especially when it comes to text like cmon, anyone can write anything and there’s your point.
I suppose it’s just due to the series DEATH BATTLE most people doing these nowadays are used to composite character arguments as that’s what they are familiar with so typically I just assume that’s the case unless someone specifically says otherwise
Nah then it really comes down to who’s had the most writing done for them/how long they’ve been a thing. Maybe that’s why nothing new ever happens…
I dunno If the doom slayer vs master chief debate is still going so I found these videos and yeah
Y’all have fun
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MK roster this isnt even a fair fight OP.
You realize Chief has almost lost to hunters and high rank covies? Once his shields down he dies from an armor peircing sniper bullet or sword like every other spartan. He’s the only one left alive from his original batch, they aren’t even close to invicible.
And shields are susceptible to emps, radiation, and energy weapons.
Colonial marines are a more even matchup for chief lol
The games override the books completely. Fall of Reach actually directly contradicts the game. They can’t both be canon.
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Old school bungie said master chief was never the focus, literally a husk of armor as a stand in for the player. It was 343 trying to give him a character, amongst other terrible design decisions. Chief came from an era of silent protags like gordan freeman, games have too much focus on walking talking cutscenes and cinematics now.
Halo 1-3 were good for gameplay and flow of the story, not cinematic character development bs.
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Yeah
Never got too into it so I wouldn’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. Sounds pretty accurate though.