Y’all need to chill....

To be honest the game felt more balanced back in the beta before launch. Idk wtf happen since then lol

Those guys are not stacked? Perhaps at certain moments.
Course I bring skilled individuals when we talk about balance. You see, I can’t make other players play better in my FT team but predators don’t have that issue.

Those are VERY good teams? WTF? You think PS FT can put more pressure on Sharpy then that? Yeah, not going to believe that one. Pressure on the predator is directly corelated with the skill of the predator and his ability to avoid it.

FT itself is not to strong man. Is the balance tipped in their favor? At high skill celling probably (probably because I don’t run premades). Generally NO! You don’t want to talk about the most skilled players? Then about what? You also don’t seem to want to talk about randoms, those don’t count, remember? So what exactly are we going to use? In randoms the FT is clearly the underdog most often then not, pretty much every time against very skilled predators.

You use the GAME NOT PLAYERS.
Too many variables with players.

Look man, the way sharpy plays, there pretty much how I play now.

The last premade I went against, was 3 really good snipers and ft players, and 1 guy who is decent.

Had I stood still as long as sharp did there, for as long as he did, I WOULD HAVE LOST MY MASK.

You know how sharpy snipes on ft?
Ya those guys. Especially one of them, are only 5%-10% less accurate.

I’m more than damn sure if sharpy had to go vs 3 ft sharpy he wouldnt win.

And guess what Xan?
THEY WERE ON PC.
ALL THE GOOD PLAYERS AINT ONLY ON PC.

the pain that pc preds feel vs good pc ft, is the same shit I have seen and experienced on ps.

I have no reason to lie.
I gain nothing from trying to fabricate anything.

I have seen ps players that have faster Reactions and better punishment than pc ft.

That’s not to say pc isnt good, there just isnt that much of a difference between pc and ps players.

You dont want to believe me fine, but it doesnt change the fact that its the truth.

The game? What do you mean the game? We look at how players perform in that game. I can’t use the game since the game does nothing but exist as some code.

That said I will say this again, good predators have 80% + win rates. Very good predators can handle good premades. Is it hard? As it should be. Will you win every time? Obvious not.

Point is this whole “FT is to strong” to the point the sky is falling is absurd, you seem to say this in most of your posts. Do you know you got a buff in last patch and FT a nerf? Not insane ones but still.

Let me know when good predators fall below 50% win rates and perhaps we can see about that sky is falling FT is to strong.

PS. Why did you switched half way trough your post into a PC vs PS thing? Let’s not get there, its tiresome.

Where are you getting this number from? Just curious

Predators saying it. I can’t very it but makes perfect sense.

I was just about to ask the same thing lol

It does not and if you ever actually played as pred you would know that.

Those ugly mother fuckas do exist 🤣 jk

Actually I’ve played a few weeks back around 6-8 games (don’t remember the number exactly). I’ve won most of them. This is with me being BAD at predator. Floored 2 teams with nothing but the elder sword and traps/net gun.

Nah no offense man we need actual numbers not some he said I said stuff. This is why they need to be more transparent or have a leaderboard to show this 80%+ you speak of. Sorry I’m kinda skeptical on that

I would love leaderboards but seriously, Do you see GOOD predators when hitting that que not winning 80% of games with the numbers of potatoes running around? Seriously now?

Dude This is why illfonic needs to show the data cause we’re just guessing at this point. There’s a problem in the game’s balance since launch. It’s been a hot topic issue for a long time.

They gave a buff to predators, the armor buff, they could not even say the % like they always do. I don’t think there is any chance in hell they will ever release win/loss rates. So we’re stuck to what people are saying.

Personally I run only randoms (the little I do play) and I win like 80%+ on my FT because most preds are just bad and I can beat them with the potatoes on my team.

You went there.
You literally said “good pc players” like only pc players count.

I’m telling you, I’ve seen people on ps play as well as pc ft.
@KameofWar being one of them.

You cant put pc as the standard, good players are a problem no matter then platform.

It’s just common sense Xan.
If a single Ft can sw a pred with a single clip,
Then when you multiply the damage, it becomes broken.

You dont need any game play to see this in action.
Are good ft hard?
No, they’re near impossible.

And if things were better, randoms Wouldnt be struggling as much as they do.
If there was balance we wouldnt have 90% of the matches be either pred wiping ft, or on the flip side, ft easily getting away.

It would be good even fights that would go either way.

That’s what balance is.
And this ain’t it.

Concuerdo, se pueden reportar temas para que los eliminen? Lo digo por los insultos, tenemos derecho a cabrearnos y pedir pero no insultar y exigir, es un juego de bajo presupuesto no se puede exigir demasiado y tampoco meter prisa van poco a poco y cumplen, hay cosas que cabrean pero si no lo arreglan en un mes sera en 2, son personas antes que desarrolladores y lo que si que no se puede es que venga un niño llorando y obligar a cerrar el foro o que dejemos de jugar, que de je de jugar él.

Btw first thing I did was test the new armor.
There was no increase whatsoever.
Still can get shredded in 2-3 secs

This seems to be their thoughts on balance at the moment

Nah man, PS players are overly sensitive. Sharpy was playing PC players, so I said PC players. That said the PC players in this game are the top of the food chain because of the hardware providing the extra power. Obviously not all but the best of the best tend to be PC.

I’ve seen players on PS play far better then PC ones but the point remains that equally skilled players are going to perform better in this game because of the hardware advantage.
In the end why is this such a problem with PS players? Why take it personally? Its not that PS players are worse as humans (or whatever, don’t know how to put it) its because they are limited by the gaming system they’re on.

I did not expect it to be significant.

I think what fire is getting at is the pred should be let’s say 100% in power while fire team is 80%. That’s what I’m assuming he’s getting at. The pred seems to be a tad squishy in my opinion. Maybe up the melee damage for each weapon. And make the bear trap great again lol