are you talking the LMG? well its only as good as the predator allows, easy counter to it. Plasma caster or if your REALLY good, Bow
2.0 - Pred nerfed to the ground
just to for understandings sake how is a gun a gear?
I thought you loved me. Why are you trolling me.
The response I gave sammy can be applied to you as well. The damage explanation.
no now im fully serious im telling to better understand your issue with the game, honestly im trying too hear you out
One more thing to consider is the new mode. Undoubtedly it’ll feel different from what we have now. Maybe these changes have that in mind cause that’s what we’ll all be playing. Things will be more fair if it’s 2v6 either split down the middle or 2 preds vs 6 FTs. In the mean time, we have a chance to get used to the changes
tsk, tsk, I will forgive you if you’re genuinely oblivious to the implications and way you made your points but I find it hard to believe.
Just because you didn’t literally say those things doesn’t mean you aren’t at fault for being rude and annoying on purpose. Your responses were all very short, you ignored 90% of what I said and chose to attack one word that was entirely irrelevant which is borderline trolling. You were then willfully ignorant in saying your point isn’t any less true, once again completely ignoring what I said in favour of furthering your circular argument.
You know very well what you were doing when you said, “You’re taking this waaaaaayyyyy too personal my guy.”. This is the only time you chose to refer to me or anyone else as “my guy”, this is a very common tactic employed by trolls and people trying to be assholes. You then go on to say you don’t like being heated and not to drag you in yet you continue responding and now you are once again attempting to shift the blame entirely to me and wash your hands of any wrongdoing because I called you “childish” and that’s just so egregious isn’t it?
You’re disingenuous, you literally pointed a finger at me in an attempt to blame me for your own decisions:
“You’re digging too deep into my responses and reacting in a way where I no longer wish to engage with you.” …“So please don’t try to drag me into these kinds of debates.”
You absolutely suggested I was emotional, you outright stated it actually:
“You’re taking this waaaaaayyyyy too personal my guy.”
What exactly am I supposed to take away from that statement? What purpose did that statement serve? Are you concerned for me, are you attempting to diffuse the situation? You just sound like a dick there and all the while you ignore most of what I say and steer the conversation to personal attacks. At least when I called you childish or criticized your logic, it was part of a huge statement about the actual issue.
Again, how am I not supposed to take personal attacks as a personal attack? You barely addressed my arguments and spent most of your time criticizing me directly whereas I did the opposite with only a few minor insults sprinkled in and only in response to your generally rude dismissal of what I was saying.
You were and still are taking it personal. I give up.
What say we wipe the slate because I think this is a big misunderstanding.
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Glad to have you aboard. We’re Shure to break the post records for a single thread now. Have you checked out the JH threads?
bimmy, blood isnt like that, and from an outside perspective, it looks like you’re the one coming at blood.
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Ok so for the sake of explanation gear= anything that can be carried into a match that is or isn’t replenishable and is not a perk
so right now in game there are guns that deal enough dps at close range to invalidate melee play so much so that it doesn’t require 4 people to even be present as some of these guns kill in as little as 4 seconds which if you multiply by 4 equals one second or less in the case of well co-ordinated teams this is even worse when one of these guns is a secondary so literally everyone in the squad can take it and see no downside as they still get the primary of their choice but can also invalidate melee play
however you are correct that you could just use a few ranged tools and you would be able to overcome this issue but then we run into there are 4 dudes who then might be carrying the ranged tools neccassary (such as sniper rifles) to force ranged play to be even harder
also this goes even further when there is a UAV scanner that can reveal a preds location and the new perk revamp that buffed all perks to the point that scouts can outrun any predator that isn’t scout even if their leaping so if they don’t jump in a inaccassible location they are simply dead if they didn’t kill the scout
we don’t necccasarily have to talk about healing in this case as right now i’d say both sides are even in how much healing they can get though it does make predator feel like they have to take big pouch or there just at such a disadvantage without it
this goes to you too bimmy on hnow some people find issue with the current balance for an asyymetrical 1v4 game
yet is it ok for a single person to obliterate the single team in less time that there are total people on a team such as the 4s with one person vs 1 second with multiple people
people may think this is an unreasonable assumption as its "outlier occurance " or it’s “just an on paper arguement” but it CAN happen which in my case specifically i’ve done this several times this exact scenario as there is rollback netcode in the game which like it or not can cause 1 second deaths even without it it could still happen if your caught in an unfortunate situation
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Okay so again, I provided detailed responses to your accusations and, I think, reasonably showed why you’re outright lying or just being ignorant. Your response addressed nothing of what I said, I don’t know if you’re just lazy or incapable of writing more than one or two lines but it indicates to me that you aren’t actually reading or considering anything that I’m saying and again, that makes you a dick in my perspective.
I would fully agree with that at this point, I’m responding to accusations in great detail because I feel the need to really clarify and defend myself. Unfortunately for me, their responses are one or two sentences spouting more nonsense which makes this all very pointless but at the very least it’s good writing practice and something to do on a Sunday afternoon.
He wasn’t being dismissive, he was excusing himself from an argument.
Relax man, lots of people for you to actually have that debate your looking for with.
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Again, incorrect. Excusing yourself from the argument means leaving the argument, as in, not responding. They didn’t do that, they said they were doing that but clearly continued on regardless so I’ll have to disagree with you there.
And yes, he was being dismissive as he was consistently ignoring most of what I said well before he “excused himself from the argument”.
ok you made alot of fair points but this is what i mean about skill.
if you know they are using heavy on the snipers their weakness would be fast movements and either quick jabs with your melee tools or blocking line of sight charging your plasma caster firing one shot and moving to a new angle and repeat.
if they go heavy on the lmg then its even more simple as you dont need to be good just stay a good bit away and use nothing but ranged tools.
if they do a mix of both this is where it gets harder but all you gotta do is keep an eye out for whos who and where they are, if they are always sticking together then your focuss should be to trigger the ai to start attacking them via getting them too set off the alarm, at that point they have a choice either focuss on the predator while the ai does all the heavy lifting for the pred or focuss on the ai giving the predator a clear line of shot, or lastly mix it up have some watching for the pred and the rest dealing with the ai, at that moment the predator only really needs to deal with 2 of them instead of 4 now say its the too sinpers right? then fall back to the first plan and just keep moving and and keep taking pot shots at them, by doing that your unlikely going to kill them but your wasting their healing items and if they did take ACIG or UAV or SR needle then you have more to work with as they had to give up either ammo or health to take it.
See what i mean? you cant throw out skill, when its a big part of the game.
Not ignoring it directly but so as to not engage with you.
Do you have a problem with someone not wanting to fight with you?
You’re right but given the numbers context you’re also wrong.
So ya.
My breaks not that long, hurry it up, it was a simple question.
I do agree that weapons can kill the Predator very quickly and as the Predator engages in melee, this becomes exponentially easier and more effective. Much of that is predicated on a good Fireteam though, isn’t it? I find that randoms don’t communicate very well or at all and tend to split up often. In your example where these possibilities exist, it sounds like it would be a team that is communicating.
To that point, I agree that the Fireteam is extremely deadly at close range and can also do some damage with a couple of snipers who can actually shoot straight. I would also argue that there are valid ways to play around that with the new patch such as utilizing your new A.I friends who actually deal damage now, dealing pretty exceptional ranged damage, capitalizing on the Fireteam trying to rely on their new toys.
The UAV scanner and decloak grenade can give FT players more courage and security which means they can be overconfident and make mistakes. If they think they know where you are or can see you, I find players usually get overzealous and rush in for the kill. The usage of traps, unique spots where you can stand still and grab a quick kill on an overconfident lone wolf, etc, are all tools at the Predator’s disposal to overcome a good FT. Just as FT may utilize spotting to keep a Predator jumping and running, even though they aren’t in any actual danger, to set up ambushes, flanks or relieve pressure for revives, the Predator can play mindgames with the FT and lure them in when they think they have you right where they want you.
I don’t really take issue with one person taking down the Predator so long as it’s 1v1 because the Predator still has enough advantages to keep it fair. I don’t know how you balance the game for most players if they can’t survive a Predator rushing them. Unfortunately, this means giving the sloppy randoms enough firepower to halt the Predator from completely wiping them out which obviously means the better players gain a huge advantage that really hinders melee combat. I like the current state of things, such as they are, because I often play with randoms and it’s nice to have a chance against a decent Predator that has claimed all three of my hapless comrades in the first five minutes of the game.
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