numbers context?
2.0 - Pred nerfed to the ground
numbers context as in the on paper arguement of how much damage a weapon does so if we took players out for a moment of this hypothetical
there are 4 dudes vs 1 dudette
there is a gun that kills the 1 dudette in 3 seconds
the dudette has a sword that kills 1 dude in 4 seconds
multiply dude damage by 4
is this ok?
this is the simplest way i can put it
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and yeah that’s a fair enough arguement so i suppose we agree to disagree
though at this point i have mostly accepted that it is good for the health of the game to balance around the pub folk even though i myself detest at the idea
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see your leaving out a massive factor in the gameplay loop, miss direction and ai’s. this isnt a flat map with no hills and walls this is a pretty fair sized maps and lots of trees and hills
yes i know that’s the “on paper arguement” is we take out external factors and just look at numbers rather than the pieces on teh board
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now fire for example believes that the on paper arguement is worth mentioning cause it doesn’t seem fair from a numbers perspective
i myself used to be this way but i have since abandoned the idea cause it’s not good for the health of the game it seems and it doesn’t line up with the dev design philosophy where one person should have the chance at winning against the monster
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the on paper argument simply doesnt work here as this game is more in depth then just what deals the most damage and what shoots the fastest
yeah that’s is true it’s not say a mmo where the stats you have you have are more valueble than the mechanical skill of pushing buttons and moving your character
but it could still be a thing brought up for the niche situations where the problem arises due to power creep which happens to many games or for the feeling of getting better doesn’t seem like something one can due in the face of overwhelming numbers
I mean the game is just Haha gun go brrr at this point. :D
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But thing with the on paper argument, is that its fact, not opinion.
I dont really like dealing with opinion, but eh.
I get where you’re coming from tho. I just dont think the way it is is balanced or fair. That’s all.
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i mean i do agree there i dont agree with just shoot everything, i kinda want to have more thinking involed in the game like dutch back in 1987’s predator had to set traps use decoys climb trees use lakes and mud and bomb arrows and all kinda wacky shit to beat the predator in this its just " THERE! SHOOT EM SHOOOOOOOOOOOTT EMM!!!"
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It would be cool. Tbh.
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Explain precisely what it means to not ignore directly but so as to not engage with me? How can you respond directly to someone and not engage with them unless your response is, “I’m not engaging with you”. Do you mean engage with me in an argument or continue the conflict because I’m pretty sure, “You’re taking this waaaaaayyyyy too personal my guy.”, was a completely unnecessary comment that certainly seems like someone continuing to engage me.
"Do you have a problem with someone not wanting to fight with you?"
That’s a loaded question and rhetorical tool designed to entrap me into an outcome because the question has already made a presupposition that the problem is someone not wanting to fight with me, which is false. Should I answer yes, you can then launch into how I’m at fault and continue to shift the blame to me. Should I answer no, you can ask why not and/or proceed down a line of, “you don’t act like it” or “why are you fighting so much then?”. Both responses are based on the premise you’ve offered, which is fallacious, so no, I don’t think I’m going to play your game thank you.
I’ve already specified what I take issue with, why I take issue with it, and I have no interest in debating with you on the subject as you are not part of it and I won’t allow you to insert yourself as a biased counterpoint to something that is none of your concern. As I said previously, I would rather not engage in these kinds of debates as they are pointless, we aren’t going to come to an agreement or realize a common truth because we have nothing to agree on, this is a hollow and fruitless pursuit.
Also, your follow-up of, “My breaks not that long, hurry it up, it was a simple question.”, is as condescending as it is pathetic. I will answer when I wish, if I wish to- I am not beholden to you or your schedule. Your words are poison and dripping with a false sense of superiority, you’re as arrogant as you are stupid. I have very little patience for games.
The numbers, Mason! What are the numbers!
You sir, are ridiculous.
You are reading to much into everything.
The question could be a trap but doesn’t have to be.
He wasn’t attacking back but expressing disbelief.
Cause the first question was supposed to lead you to think of my obvious argument, which happens to be the next question.
Are you a bully?
If not then move the fuck on, 😘.
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Yeah, fair enough. I get what you’re saying because on paper the Fireteam has a faster kill potential and they have that multiplied by four. It is a matter of perspective because I too would like to see the game trend toward the higher level of play and the plebs can fend for themselves.
Unfortunately, a game with a small pool of players won’t last long and you would end up playing matches against the same people over and over. We need the majority of random meat puppets to populate the servers which means easy kills most of the time and brutal, crushing losses sometimes.
Again, I’m not really sure how you balance the game out effectively with gear and characters all having the same stats and abilities across the board regardless of skill. Perhaps a more robust matchmaking system where players of lower levels only match against those of the same level or lower within certain brackets? Such as 1-15, 15-50, 50-100, 100-149, 150+. Perhaps they could also add an option to ignore those matchmaking restrictions for those that are struggling to find matches in their particular bracket?
That way, you could better balance the guns and gear to better fit the higher levels of play while still giving noobs a chance to practice and face tougher opponents incrementally?
Never mind, you apparently are.
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Ugg, fucking moron.
certainly true however as it stands i’m waiting for the new game modes as perhaps one of them end up being more balanced than the game mode we have right now
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You admit it was a leading question but are also saying I’m reading *"too much into everything", well which is it? Am I correct that you’re playing games and asking loaded questions or am I wrong because I’m reading too much into things, those two things are not reconcilable. Your next question that asks whether or not I’m a bully is precisely what I was talking about, you would ask that regardless of whether I said yes or no because your original question was a cheap tactic. By your own admission, I’m actually not being ridiculous and was 100% correct in pointing out what a duplicitous person you are.
"He wasn’t attacking back but expressing disbelief."
That’s entirely a matter of perspective and no one can know what was meant but the person who said it. They did attempt to deny the implication of what they said but from my perspective, they’re disingenuous and I cannot reasonably believe what they say so we’re at an impasse and that’s the end of it. They haven’t responded and now only you are carrying on the original argument, so why not take your own advice and “move the fuck on”.
Very inaccurate considering more than half the updates last I remember combi got nerfed, plasma caster got nerfed,pretty much anytime preds go Against randoms who whine and moan that this or that is op something of preds always got nerfed so don’t exaggerate and lie.
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