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I’m sorry, James-Cameron. I came looking for answers but just found entitlement. And now I’m not even being as polite as I should be.

I didn’t realize people were so sensitive about this subject. Must be tough for a big Hollywood director such as yourself

It was rude, not really any ruder than you have been though. You don’t like how I spoke to you, oh well.

An opinion that is based on the facts can be right. Ie. if it is a hundred percent accurate then it is not only an opinion but also a fact.
The facts in the AVP debate are pretty clear. They literally show props from AVP in The Predators. My opinion is based off of the facts.

So yeah the facts agree with me, thanks for playing.

I mean I wouldn’t argue if that were definitely the case, but I think it could go a different direction. Agree to disagree. I mean it’s not like the JH is even that big of a deal mechanically. Doesn’t necessarily feel any different than the regular hunter, his stats are alright, it’s mainly cosmetic and even then you can still get his mask and the Elder looks similar.

Like I said before, I still think something could be done but it’s not the end of the world and I can understand wanting to keep the exclusive permanently exclusive.

Go read this thread and get back to me.

https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/i-think-they-should-release-the-87-predator-skin-already

No one wants a repeat. (And I am being polite damn it.)

How have I been rude to you?

Also, no, your opinions are not based in absolute facts, therefore still an opinion, not an answer.

A prop does not prove that one universe exists within another. That’s an associative fallacy.

The question of continuity is in narrative, not prop or production design. It might appear the same as other Predator films, but that does not mean it is continuous with it.

An opinion is always an opinion, even if based in fact. If it is based on a fact, then an opinion is meaningless next to the absolution of the fact.

Look, you’re obviously a very passionate person, and if I have genuinely been rude to you than I sincerely apologize. It was never my intention. I’m sorry that we can’t agree on the topics we have discussed and I hope you can do well moving forward. I’m confident you could easily argue for eternity with me and I really don’t want to. So, let’s agree to disagree and leave it at that, alright?

And also dude, I literally said that I wasn’t “deeply upset” by you being rude, you just said you weren’t and I rebutted. Be more self aware

Okay I see the kind of person you are. So you’re just threatening to be mean again?

I get it. We should just leave it before this whole website gets shutdown lol

If you wanted to move on why make points for me to respond too?

Because I thought I could actually make an argument you’d understand and reasonably agree or disagree but you’re just a brick wall at this point who’d rather act childish than properly explain themselves in detail.

So I’ve given up trying to argue, which does not mean your argument is the better one btw. Literally just means you can’t acknowledge someone else’s argument and aren’t worth arguing with. This sounds very rude of me but I’m not trying to just attack you, I’m just stating how I feel

Out of context, I was joking with Finesse, not speaking to Vexx. If you stick around you’ll notice I don’t just jump on people with both feet. I enjoy a goof argument, but not everybody does. You want to debate, I want to insult you, it’s a win/win for me, 😉 (this is a joke).

Haha ohh really??

I mean I just saw it as you validating rude behaviour because it is your opinion that your opponent has low intelligence, which is a very rude and childish thing to do.

But if everyone knows you’re joking I guess that’s fine then. Not like it’s my place to tell people how to behave anyway lol

Me and Vexx are friends, further down I compliment his insult directed at me. You gotta work you’re way down to the fake lazy stuff. It’s fun.

Who cares if it’s canon. AvP has been in the pop culture sphere since the 90’s and it isn’t going anywhere.

All 3 properties are owned by 20th Century Studios – it’s up to Illfonic if they want to add in xenos…

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I see. Sorry about accusing you, then

When was the last AVP content released anywhere besides comics?

Also yeah I can’t really remember the importance of it being canon in our argument, anyway. I think it was arbitrary.

My argument was just that being able to play as the Predalien would be too absurd to make any sense or be appropriate since the Predalien is a xenomorph with Yautja characteristics, and not at all even related to any sect of the culture of Yautja or even a creature that hunts. It’s focus is to just kill and reproduce.

I think maybe it could work as a boss in a PvE Predator versus Alien mode but that’s about the extent.

Either way, when it comes to classifying canon, obviously it matters if AVP is or isn’t. Which I believe it isn’t. Haven’t proved it yet though so it’s just an opinion at the moment.

Thank you, I’m not a troll or just here for the fights, I do enjoy them though. I may be a bit touchy about being told I’m threatening as that’s ban worthy and not a thing I want misinterpreted.

JH is best avoided though as it gets people super spun up. I really was just trying to warn you earlier.

PS. We know they’re coming Blood, just when it looks like we’re struggling, Xeno’s will arrive and save the day.

Predalien is more than a xeno with Yautja characteristics. It’s quite literally both species.

I think it could work in game easily but it would have to include xenos of every class

I don’t think it’s absurd at all.

Unless it’s just a predalien hunting FT but even then it can be explained easily.

Okay I getchu.

I think it’s important to realize how threatening something we don’t intend as a threat can be. Perhaps I’ve said threatening things as well without realizing it. Either way, sorry if I upset you in any way somehow, didn’t mean to but it’s difficult to argue a point to someone who wants no business with even acknowledging it. Seemingly so, anyway. And yes, noted moving forward.

This could be a thing. Also if they add a 3v1 all Predator mode the one will need to be something as powerful as the Assassin or Predalien. I think that route is more likely and as you said it will be like a boss fight.

Edit - not that I don’t think we will also get a vs Xeno mode, but like I said that will likely be way out in the future when we need to boost to the player base.

PS. I do dismiss people when arguing it’s… habit.

Well it’s a Xenomorph born from a Yautja. If AVP is canon within both universes, then it is biologically a xenomorph who’s adapted biological characteristics of Yautja DNA (or whatever the equivalent is). Which means it’s more of a Xenomorph with the physical attributes of a Yautja. Such as the dog alien from Alien3 or Big Chap from Alien. Each acquired characteristics from their respective hosts but maintained the majority Xenomorph design and mechanics.

My point is, I don’t entirely disagree with what you said but I believe it’s far more Xeno than Yautja.

Either way, it’s not an equivalent hunter in any way, shape, or form, to any average Yautja hunter in my opinion. In AVP canon it’s even referred to as an “abomination” which implies they do not see it even as a Yautja or Xenomorph.

It could work, in some capacity, in the game, but I doubt it could work as a playable creature unless in an exclusively AvP gamemode, and even then, the game’s formula is Fireteam versus Predator. I think adding Xenomorphs and Xenomorph classes to the game could greatly change it to something beyond what it was intended to be. In other words, it would compromise the design of the game. In my opinion.

I see I’ve entered a time loop

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