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So where do you stand on adding dishonorable bad bloods to the game?

Pick the argument that I ignored. Youā€™re assuming Iā€™m not willing because I think I could lose. You shouldnā€™t assume so much.

I do need a recess in the proceedings to go run an errand, please donā€™t declare yourself the winner if I donā€™t respond promptly.
(Fake Lazy did that and it does annoy me.)

PS. I like your playbook so far, youā€™re more interesting than I expected.
Wish we had had a good topic to argue over, to be honest I donā€™t think JH or Aliens is worth it. We will make do.

I think adding a Bad Bloods pack, such as the Super Predators, could be very fun and still make sense within the gameā€™s design.

Yes they donā€™t hunt for the traditional honour of Yautja culture, but they still hunt according to their own culture instead of just as creatures.

So if youā€™re trying to make the point that their hunting is equivalent to the Predalienā€™s, I would say, itā€™s definitely closer, and in this instance maybe an argument could be made for the Predalien (by that I mean an argument that could actually make sense in every way for the context, not that yours doesnā€™t make sense), but I still think that even the Bad Bloods hunt for a purpose other than animalistic needs.

Iā€™m for them, and even suggested maybe adding a mythic Yautja skull trophy to the game.

Lol Iā€™m not ever going to declare myself the winner just by being the only one. Unless you can defeat my argument, or I yours, there are no winners or lovers yet.

Iā€™m not making my definition based on you, Iā€™m just applying my definition to you as the example. And maybe the argument is dismissed for other reasons than avoiding it because you could lose or canā€™t answer it, I could be wrong on that.

I think bad bloods do it to establish dominance and nothing more

Makes sense. Would explain the crucified Jungle Hunter.

Tbh, and this might upset you unintentionally lol, but I think the Assassin Predator could work better than the Predalien (even though I despise The Predator 2018 and the entire point of the dynamic between the Assassin and the fugitive, except the concept of a Predator hunting Predators, but even then, Predators did it first and much much better soā€¦).

16 fireteam members doing a mission being hunted by 4 predators ā€œfrom the same Bad Blood clan,ā€ who are then hunted by one Assassin Predator. Something like that.

Playbook???

Tbh Iā€™m too exhausted to look through your arguments to find the ones you dismissed but my point was just thay itā€™s easier to dismiss an argument than to argue against it, and at least in my opinion, to do that is childish, therefore immature. Not accusing you of absolutely being childish, but you werenā€™t necessarily a serious fair arguer sometimes lol. I think I pointed out one time you dismissed me, anyway, in another post.

Im all for the assassin as well

Yeah

It would definitely have to be an exclusive for a Predator versus Predators game.ode though, would be far too strong for fire team.

I see it as maybe five of the four Predators have to load into the match, then one is randomly selected to be the Assassin. That way the queue times for the Assassin arenā€™t hours long lol.

Then the Assassin would just be a much bigger Predator, whoā€™s less agile (walks/speints slower, leaps a smaller distance, etc) but with much more stamina, and impenetrable, Down Range, and Fearless as base kit perks (with no perks equippable). And maybe killing fireteam members and eating them would give you health instead of piggies or something. Built in plasma caster, obv, just his fists and claws for melee with his wrist blade.

I think he should be a big powerhouse who can accomplish minimal amounts of very big plays, but many many small plays. Like an Elephant sniper, if that makes any sense lol, and he should only be cosmetically customizable.

Whoā€™s playing Fortunate Son, and why can I hear helicopters??

Just a figure of speech, so far I like the ā€˜tacticsā€™ youā€™ve employed, including those to not lose face or to redirect the argument. At the same time your responses give the appearance of non engagement while encouraging responses. Most new people just throw insults back and forth, I personally like it to be more like sparring.
Referring to your Playbook is a compliment, Iā€™m just acknowledging your more than a one trick pony.

As for the Assassin, I have my own ideas about how he should be done as a playable character. I wouldnā€™t stop him from having perks, but donā€™t see why he wouldnā€™t have bonus ones as well.
Before getting into the specifics of him though, Iā€™d like to first make it clear that I think he shouldnā€™t be the only one of his kind. Iā€™d like other 11 foot options too. I do think he should be a skin for the class, maybe even the elite skin or he is paid dlc and gives early access to the class.

Depending on how many Yautja opponents he faces his hit points could be anywhere up to about 4000, more than double a normal Yautjaā€™s. With his under-skin armour he has the equivalent of impenetrable, reduces gunfire damage but Iā€™d expand it to include some Pred weapons too, like the bow.

Same Predcore ability but with more focus on being near the trunk of the tree, possibly even stopping on them rather than branches, needs new animations unfortunately. Cloak an PC would likely be the same too but Iā€™d add bleed damage to their wrist blades due to size and strength of the wearer.

The claim animations for the Assassin would be sick and doable on both FT and Yautja.

Ohh I see. Iā€™m just trying to be super honest and clear about what my intentions are and how I think about your argument.

Anyways,

Yeah the way I see it, is the Assassin would be one full thing. Like you canā€™t customize his loadout because by default he should already be super strong and any more perks would make him too strong. I donā€™t think there should be more than one, otherwise they would be an unstoppable team for both Predator and Fireteam. I think, basically, he should be thr maximum of what is currently available for the regular Predators. So all his base offensive abilities should be the equivalent of perks that boost them for Predators, ans he should have a draw back, so why not mobility because of his size. Maybe he canā€™t even leap.

He should be able to down fireteam members but his goal should be to hunt the other Predators, not just the weak humans.

He needs to be strong and threatening, but within reason and fairness.

I wouldnā€™t want a whole mode dedicated to just one character. Even if there were a second option in it with the Predalien, Iā€™d still like to be able to personalize my own giant Yautja, maybe make Hashori sheā€™s about 9 feet tall and has more in common with the Assassin than other Yautja.
If they did make a mode, Iā€™d like as diverse a set of options as possible for the big bad solo role. (I even wrote a suggestion for a third option)

ā€¦ and because I havenā€™t said it recently, OKH can you ask the team if we can hunt a giant mutant T-Rex ie. the skull from part 2. Pretty, pretty please.

Lol

Yeah I see where youā€™re coming from. I think no matter what they should be somewhat customizable (yā€™know within reason) but I donā€™t see a way to balance them and have them feel strong without having them be the draw to their own gamemmode built around them. Pred versus Preds versus Soldiers is really the only way I can see it working. Or even just Pred versus Preds versus AI.

The Assassin would not work versus just fireteams. That would be too strong. He would feel too weak then.

To make him feel like a major force, weā€™d need him to be strong and against strong opponents. Which in this case would mean pred versus pred.

I donā€™t know how else they could implement him.

Oh, there definitely needs to be other Predā€™s involved. They might be hunted by him or be trying to stop him. That way you can have a version that is easier for the solo and one thatā€™s a bit harder. The FT likely will need a reward for the added risk or a bigger 6 or 8 man team.
I think they would also need different objectives, like securing Pred tech.

I would implement assassin predator as a second reinforce for FT

After they have reinforced FT can reveal the location of the predator to the assassin

After some time a dead FT spawns in as the assassin predator who must kill the other predator

Assassin has an active ability with a cooldown to harden itā€™s skin and temporarily be invincible to firearms and explosions

Still takes damage from plasma

Assassin has built in unlimited thermal vision

Wrist mounted plasma caster

Single bladed wrist blade that can be fired at close range

Yes. Maybe theyā€™re even contracted by the O.W.L.F to go secure a downed Bad Blood ship or something. All while the Bad Bloods start their hunt, after killing the Yautja who caused them to crash (thatā€™s an explanation for the random 5th Yautja who is chosen to play the Assassin). Then the assassin lands and is sent to hunt down the Bad Bloods and claim them as trophies for proof.

Itā€™s like a tug of war between fireteam and the assassin with the Bad Bloods in the middle.

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Ooo that sounds pretty awesome.

I donā€™t think it would be fair for him to work FOR the fireteam, though, but I donā€™t think thatā€™s what you meant.

Like maybe if the player who is now the assassin can kill the predator before the predator kills the fireteam, the Assassin can then kill the fireteam.

Learn to accept your own mistake of not buying it on time and that its a pre-order which devs usually never make into a dlc.

The only thing i will have to agree on is make all past and future predators free and make a battle pass to profit from that.