You’re elite. We all are. Because nobody loses on the internet 😅
About balance
well… what can I say… I have live streams that prove what I say, not to mention people have seen my progress because a month ago I would have a hard time eliminating a team of potatoes.
Anyway, never claimed to not lose, otherwise I would have put I win 100% of my games, like some other people here have said. I don’t. I have no reason to lie, much more when I constantly live stream all my games for hours. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I’m just making jokes, I meant no offense
Problem with ppl like you, is you only go off your own results, and dont try to analyze the game objectively.
Back before 2.0. There was barely any teams that could keep with my pred, same as preds who didnt get sniped by me.
Full premades btw.
Not randoms.
But I never went solely off my results because of you try to balance off any skill level or individual or only certain groups results, you won’t get accurate data.
But no cares about actual balance here lol.
He is kinda saying that he’s an average peed. Maybe a bit better than average
Plus, he’s been playing pred only in the current patch so he doesn’t have the relative ‘bias’ of how it was before. As it is now, he’s saying that it’s fair or at the least, that it’s manageable. Not sure if that’s good but i see it as a positive
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Given how much he plays, I highly doubt that.
As long as you put in time youl do in games.
So given how old he is, idk his age but I think hes like 30, and has been playing his whole life with more effort, seemingly, than the average player, I dont see him being just average.
This is purely going off how he talks and looks at things.
Seems like he struggled then then me to get going in pred, but ya know, everyone has their own pace, plus balance was slightly better before.
The problem is, you cant try to balance things off of individual results, or only some people.
You have to balance the game itself, which, no one seems to want to do, or be able to do.
I have no idea which one it is.
I’ve said it probably 100 times if not more, but ppl keep ignoring it.
You cant let a single player in a team faction be able to single handedly severely injure or kill the solo faction, because once you multiple the damage, it becomes severely broken, and unfair.
This has been the main issue for close to a year now.
There really isnt an emphasis on team work.
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That’s a fair point. Everyone has their own notion of balance and i really have not problem with yours. I mainly want people to agree on something.
I think it depends on the playstyle. If pred was more tanky he would possibly melee and quickclaim with ease. Having things as they are cause him to be more patient about it and i think that’s good. Otherwise after first claim games would really roll downhill for pred. Even though one FT can do a lot of damage to pred, that’s most true if he has backup, meaning FT has to cover each other and stick together. If they don’t, peed still runs the show
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exactly. problem is not damage or health, is tactics.
people see this game and think the pred is like a killing machine… for fucks sakes he’s a HUNTER. You don’t hunt by shooting everything in your path
I did some polls on this matter a few months ago and the overall results were that 70% of the PS4 players are completely happy with the balancing, while only 30% of PC players found it balanced.
Now we had 2 patches in a row that increased the Preds Armour, so it should look a lot different.
Stop talking such bullshit, you’re not even close to being a noob.
A real noob doesn’t even know what mission the Fireteam will be on, while you have lots of experience as FT and will most likely directly know what specific mission they are currently doing.
I also have the impression that this game is very balanced right now.
I think what most people underestimate is the complete difference between the skill levels needed for being a Pred that owns in Pubs and a Pred that even gives Top Tier FTs a hell of a beating, as well as how tiny the margin for error becomes in such matches.
Preds like Gesp, Dragos, Prozi and Dan haven’t become so good in just a day.
Like you said it is the persistence in training that makes you become good, but its also talent and experience from other games.
And a lot of perfectionism, since every little mistake counts in Top Tier matches, their margin for error is so small that they can’t afford making any mistake.
I will personally never be able to get to their level, simply just because I started gaming again last year after a 6-year break, so I will never be able to catch up to someone with the same level of commitment and perfectionism that has played regularly in those 6 years.
And its the same for playing Fireteam.
I’m already over 1000hrs gameplay time since day 1, developed my own fighting style and role, and I have even won multiple 1v1 matches against PC Preds, but I will never be able to catch up to the skill level of people like sharpy, since I never played a shooter competitively and will always do little mistakes that cost my life against Preds like Prozi or Dan.
In the end there is only one way to balance such matches, and it would be by introducing a ranking system that matches you against other players with similar statistics.
Everything else is like comparing apples to oranges.
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With no way to separate ppl or cc effects, it anyway to effective and efficiently fight multiple people, then tactics do not apply.
Again, tactics go off playstyle, which means you’re still balancing off players and not the game itself.
This is one of the other main problems.
Preds kit is too 1v1 focused when hes supposed to be fighting multiple people.
Sorry man but no.
Things Arent good right now lol.
Il give a perfect example.
If this high level of dps is fine, well then let’s Give pred their lore damage and have him kill ppl with one or two hits, no downs except if the ft only gets clipped.
But if we do that, what happens?
Then everyone will start to complain that pred dps is too high.
Hell even now some still do that.
Theres More things as well, but as the conversation has continued throughout the year, you start too see that almost everyone that’s left, has a huge bias favoring the ft.
And a question I’ve been asking for like 2 months now that no one has answered is, why is it ok for ft to do such high damage, have all these things, but not pred?
Luckily I dont care too much anymore.
At one point In time this game was decently Good, and I had high Hope’s.
Then it slowly started going to shit.
I’ve tried preventing that, but no one listens, so fuck can I do?
I’ve even mentioned some solutions to help pred, while keeping current broken ft.
Quite a few ppl have agreed but I dont think illfonic will listen cause they clearly care more about ft than pred.
Otherwise pred wouldn’t be clunky,
The targeting reticules would be accurate, as well as the leap indicator.
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Pred is still OP.
Jump jump jump. wait. jump. FT out of ammo or reload. go in hit. jump jump. hit. jump. hit. Downed one. jump. jump. hit. jump. hit. downed second one. Snowball incoming.
The difference is. Predator has a big learning curve. Until u get good with him you need several hours and matches. You got more plebs on FT than on Predator. Also iirc Predator has a way higher wait time, so more plebs queue up for FT.
Pred is not op.
You’re wrong.
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I mostly agree with the you. It’s about playstyles.
I kinda see your concern about one FT doing high damage to pred as looking at that aspect in of itself. In that case it is not fair. But i look at the overall consequence. It keeps pred at bay if FT is organized so he doesn’t steam roll them and has him approach FT cautiously. Pred may not get the kills or claims, but he puts FT on notice and prevents them from doing the mission. So it’s about tactics, resources and time management. With enough pressure from pred less time is left for FT to complete the mission and they may be running low in resources.
On the note if high damage from one FT, if i remember correctly, @DisturbedLlama and his team buffed preds HP to 200% and he still lost (only a few matches so it’s not a definite)
I like this vid, cause it illustrates my point about pressuring well, even though pred dies prematurely
Pred took off 8 mins off the clock and if he wouldn’t have pressed too much, perhaps FT would be running short on time to finish the mission and might have to separate more, which is the opening the pred needs to really go in
He’s not OP, but i don’t think he should be either. In canon he is, but for the sake of the game to be somewhat fair FT has to be able to keep him off of them
As far as preds dps, how would you fix it?
It’s too low in comparison to ft dps, but only cause ft dps is from multiple sources, not one.
But I’ve pretty much answered this question.
Give pred weapon mods, elemental effects, cc,
See right now so many ppl want Pred to play a certain way, but he doesnt have the gear or tools to play A stalker style.
Let me watch this video to try and see what you’re saying.
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I do agree pred needs more variety in weapons and gadgets.
Also i feel like pred should have access to two gadgets at the press of a button without going to the wheel
You can customize the D-Pad on ps4 to be whatever. It definitely feels a lot faster switching weapons that way but you can slot gear or anything.
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That does help. Cause it really looks cumbersome to switch from bow to trap, then the elder sword, then to whatever
That video pretty much proved my points tho.
Wtf is pred supposed to do when he had no effective way to avoid being flanked?
Cause leap ain’t it.
Also there’s no spots that pred can get on that ft cant easily get to, or shoot at.
Trees are a death sentence.
Sigh that video was extremely annoying to watch too.
I hate ppl who Play like that and are like that xD.
Mainly that super cocky one.
I know you and quite a few others may not see it, but pred does not have the tools required to deal with bullshit like that.
I can tell you what happened too.
That poor pred lost his cool and patience With how annoying they were playing.
Their actions, idk if he could hear them.
Groups like those I can be hard to keep a level head cause they play like a buncha annoying cunts xD.
I just feel bad for the guy tbh.
On another note, I fear pred will never get these tools.
Because everyone, even illfonic have shown they are against and afraid of pred having any good effects.
The proof is how net gun, bear traps, and wrist launcher are all pretty useless.
They are waaaaaaay too weak.
So I’ve no real hope for things being better for pred.
And that makes me sad.