Are Americans not allowed to innovate?

Ya I’m glad I found it it helps me understand what’s going on in the world plus freedomtoons

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Or get a specialized job

Unions will become important again

I think that makes sense for big business who keeps giving out bonuses to CEOs and such. But for small business, if cost of operation go up, can they really afford to pay more to employees?

lol another building here that was supposed to get an in-house therapy team and was hit with a hostile takeover from some suits in new york. Pretty much everyone there left within the month as they had no respect for matching salaries, PTO, etc.
Once one person quits everyone does and word gets around. That company didn’t last a month even after trying to change their brand.

Specialization privilege.
Burn bureaucrats, burn suits and their zoom calls.

iirc dont they get tax breaks and other kinds of protectionisms that are supposed to be for these kinds of scenarios and they pocket it instead?

its poor management

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That, and the gov let them get away with it I guess

My good sir, unions are as corrupt as the government itself. Not only was I in one once, but family members of mine were and are in various unions. Now, they’re there for the $$, but science-damn it, these fockers might as well be Goodfellas. If you’re friends with or related to someone else “connected”, you’re good, but if not, you’re either completely looked over for work or sent to the “practice squad” so to speak. And if you “check a box”, you might get picked up but not taken seriously, even if you’re amazing at the job. And Science forbid someone find out you didn’t vote left, even if everyone talks to the right or center. It’s all bullshit. All of it.

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Granted, but they have same cause as disgruntled workers and make it easier to to be organized strikes.

holy balls; scratches the surface of the fbi

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There’s less than a thousand licensed workers in my state that do what I do. Contractors and the like always need people like me. Hard work privilege gang rise up.

Correction… they HAD the thingy… now it’s just a palm-greasing money-laundering machine.

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There has to be a middleman in this. If not unions, then perhaps people can organize in social media. It was to be an organized strike effort

I think the only way organization can work in today’s world without succumbing to socialist principles of collectivism and ultimately ending in sloth and unproductiveness is to LOOSELY organize, by individual business, if necessary, the parties agreeing to lobby for better conditions and wages BUT each individual person must negotiate their own contracts with management AND the dollar amounts/benefits per person MUST be kept confidential, lest jealousy and greed destroy the group from inside. If every person agrees to simply negotiate on their own and keep their deal confidential, thar COULD work. However, a strike would occur if every person couldn’t negotiate for themselves. No union reps needed or wanted.

How likely is it that an average person will negotiate a good deal for themselves? The power is with numbers.

Its unlikely, but very doable. A (shitty) company counts on it being unlikely to keep wages low. Union leadership counts on it to have a job at all, despite notndoing real work. A person must be taught to negotiate. Taught to be a modicum of disagreeable. To be willing to walk away and not settle. It’s a hard discipline, but very achievable. It’s one of the main reasons by in large that men earn more than women. Not THE reason, but a big one, to be sure. It’s also a discipline that once you have it, you have it forever. An individual MUST know the value of his/her own labor if they are to succeed in getting more for themselves. Also, work ethic has a lot to do with the equation. SOME of the laziest, most entitled dolts I’ve ever had the displeasure of working with had a union mindset. They were protected by the union despite being shitty employees. They dragged production down, dragged morale down and thus, the company didn’t do as well as it could’ve, therefore the management didn’t want to pay employees more. They thought us all lazy doofuses. The hard working employees, at first, picked up the slack. Then we got angry at the lazy ones, but there was nothing we could do to them, we weren’t management. So we became unproductive too, in an effort to force more productivity out of the lazy people. It didn’t work. The whole operation suffered as a result. The lazy people dragged us all down with them. Individuality in employment is paramount. I won’t have some Schner making deals for me, for an extra nickle per hour. I can do my own talking and I’ve proven, many times over at my current job to be worth the money I want.

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I agree with the principle/idea, but I’m still skeptical if it’ll work at this time when things are tight as it is. Not too many people out there right now that will risk losing what job they have, even if it’s shitty

welcome back King

Valid points all around. Not to mention when a company’s negotiating they’ll put 3 angry looking people infront of you.

Like I said, a LOOSE organization where all agree to negotiate for themselves. If someone were to be canned just for asking for better conditions/benefits etc, then a strike would ensue. But no dues, no delegates, no political bullshit. Everyone hammers out their contracts, keeps it to themselves (that’s a rule) and gets back to work. And if someone isn’t pulling their weight especially after getting a better deal, they could be fired. If you want more, you have to be worth the investment.

You’re right, to a degree. People ARE afraid to lose what they have, but if they’re not willing to risk anything, they don’t deserve anything extra. That’s the risk/reward principle in action.

Take the $15//hr Wendy’s employee for example. They said they wanted that. That’s what would make them happy. And now it’s here. But the employees I’ve seen, more than half are the same lazy’s they were before the raise. Also, the prices have increased to offset the raises and new, touchscreen kiosks have popped up, so humans will be replaced and the management has less people to pay. That’s what happens. Bob the burger guy should’ve went to the boss on his own, privately, and hammered out a deal, then proved he was worth it by actually improving his performance. Not staying stagnant.

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Very true. You’ve just got to be stoic and cold as ice when negotiating. And the earlier you learn this discipline, the better off you’ll be. A fine example was the lawyer from Kenner when he made the deal with Lucasfilm in the late 70s to make action figures. The Kenner guy stayed cool and calm and Lucasfilms team actually had an intimidation guy there, a bug muscle man and he failed. It’s in the “The toys that made us” episode about Star Wars merch.