Lmfao what are you posting gameplay vids of competely different games for schizo. Figure out the difference between things that are client-sided and server-sided.
Take it to off topic. This is how much of an argument you don’t have.
Bug or hacker
At what point did you decide “ah yes ill post someone no-clip flying around in minecraft etc on a public server!” That’ll show finessology that the PHG match was hax and not desync!
Just stop
Ah that’s the play. You claim it appears to be desync and I present footage of several instances of hacking which are indistinguishable from desync, save for the replay/recap following which shows it was glitch exploits or outright hacking, thereby demonstrating your snarky ass point of these examples people are showing of “displaying the same patterns of desyncing” are also the same exact shit you would from someone hacking and your response of course is to just stick your fingers in your ears and scream blah blah blah lol. A bit less graceful than I was asking given your utter narcissism but you don’t seem like the type that takes well to admitting your wrongs lol.
See if you said it was possible some instances were just desync that would be a reasonable position. However you can’t even admit to the possibility that any of it is hacking and judging from how people were doing shit like this glitching through walls and under buildings and shit since launch and even in the trial the fact that in your mind it is inconceivable that this shit may well be hacking in a number of instances is just flat out asinine. And not even based on any actual evidence but because it LOOKS the same as lag therefore it has to be lag lol. You can’t even even admit the one shot shit going on could possibly even be hacking despite how tell tale that is of outright hacking more so than lag especially when you see repeated instances of such as an example I showed where a guy one shot the Predator to Second Wind and then dead on two separate occasions despite the fact this was mirrored by no other players in that match the Predator had engaged. You can’t even admit that so much as APPEARS suspect let alone draw the most obvious conclusion being that the fucker is hacking his ass off. And I’m not even making any claim that hacking is rampant or anything but that it obviously exists in this hame like it does in every game that has ever been programmed and ever will be. And honestly you haven’t even attempted to make a case for why there is no hacking in this game. You’ve made absolutely no argument to even back up your claim. All you have done is shouted down everyone else based on nothing and then one clip you found. You have never attempted to disprove the concept that this game may have hackers. But then again you’re also the same guy that can’t possibly understand why a brand new player might take exception to getting almost insta killed through a ceiling the second they stepped in the building so… I guess reason and logic and common sense just doesn’t compute for the PC bot bois huh?
Tl:dr You have no argument whatsoever and you’re a PC bot wanna be lol
Nope there is still no play and you are still schizophrenic.
Guess what majority of things in this game are SERVER-SIDED. Unlike H1Z1 or Warzone you brainlet. Inb4 “durr if its so unhackable why doesnt everyone do it?”
Illfonic either made an idiot or hidden genius decision to render everyone their own client side game states in an FPS - movespeed, damage, yadda yadda, you hit the execution interact as predator and the circle spins up twice, or you get a long execute that didnt give a shit about your button inputs and groan etc. Makes the game an unresponsive peice of shit with any kind of connection issues present but also prevents script kiddie bullshit. Tradeoff is that the game becomes a janky as shit desyncfest and you will be shot through walls, as such shooters with 1 second TTK dont apply this bs for obvious reasons they’d have to choose between server lag that plays a part in every match affecting everyone or the fringe noclip speedhack aimbotters.
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Here i’ll go ahead and give you a very simple straightforward example because you tried to compare this game’s netcode to COD which means you still don’t understand.
Ok class, in simple terms. When was the last time you loaded up League of Legends and someone one shot you or no-clipped into your nexus and one tapped it at match start?
Literally fucking never because the server is running the calculations entirely.
Inb4 “but muh orbwalking script that cant get me out of silver!”
The end.
Now what happens when you ping spike on LoL? Oh wait. You stop moving. And then everyone kills you. And then you’re presented with your 0 hp body after the refresh.
Just like the predator.
Make sense?
Difference here is that Riot is nice enough to freeze you on your screen so you know you are not synchronized with the server. And this is why you are so confused. Illfonic could do the same but that would be worse than what we have now. In exchange for seamless predator gameplay at 100ms your predator and its hitboxes are not where you think they are and the predator is rendered in different places on everyone’s screens depending on how delayed things are. The issue is that the damage is still calculated like normal even though one guy is rubberbanding his ass off because there is no travel time for bullets & the lag compensation in this game is ridiculous. IE: you fire bow and run around a corner and still get hit by delayed bullets and as such have to kill the laggy guy first. As long as he shoots the predator on his screen the damage will go through. This is why shooters still lean towards client-sided gameplay.
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Actually love the example from league is a good way to explain it xd
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Is your argument that’s theres no hackers?
Cause youd be wrong.
This shit you call desynch and blame on lag I had happen to me before, but right after I died, the dude who did it left the lobby and changed his psn name like no more than 5 minutes after.
So if his actions arent evidence of hacks, then idk what is. Plus, he had a low throphy level, meaning it was a new, throw away account.
Theres always been hackers.
The difference with lag is, you can tell when its lag cause if you’re being affected by lag, you can see it. It’s pretty obvious.
I’d like to add, its only ever happened to me once as well.
That’s a leap but add him and ask where he got his crazy ps4 hacks
Lol no need. The dude wouldnt have responded anyway. Trust me throughout the years I’ve ran into hackers in many different games, I’ve even beaten some of them.
My point is, that everyone’s so quick to try to shit down down hack claims, but ppl do hack. Always have, always will.
I can’t speak for others.
But I know if I’m calling hacks its definitely after analyzing what happened several times.
Back when I played mw3 there was a hack ppl used that if you aimed at a person’s head, you would get kicked.
Theres always been crazy shit.
But I do hate it if people call hacks if there isnt any.
A lot of the time I had to tell ppl to shut up, they were just getting out played. Cause they were calling hacks for no reason.
I wouldnt ask him, cause I dont want those hacks xD. I dont need em lol.
Either way you know me. I dont like to needlessly argue or start shit. I’m just saying I’ve ran into hacks in this game sadly.
Update firmware
Hacking is less common in League of Legends but not because they are good at catching it, which is true they are but not THAT good lol, but because the game is much more complex and there are so many characters and shit that it would be difficult to create effective hacks and shit not exclusive to just one character. Here, why don’t you try reading a little:
https://www.quora.com/How-come-League-of-Legends-has-so-little-hacking-players
As far as your bullshit what the fuck are you on about dude? I think your brain broke. When you lag in games like DOTA and LOL and HoTS you typically get frozen and there really isn’t a desync issue like PHG because when you get desync it will stop your client until it catches back up usually. So that’s not even a relevant comparison because that shit doesn’t happen in LoL and games like it because instead of letting you run around desync’d it usually freezes you while it catches up. So what are you even talking about? Have you ever played that game? Because I have never seen that occur where you are running around and just totally desync from your champion without the game freezing before correcting itself lol. Are we dipping our toes in make believe now?
You know you have to be like Slendy to be able to look at PHG in its painful simplicity and reach for LoL, a game with tons of different champions and hundreds of abilities and shit to try to make a fucking comparison XD
His claims is that every instance of people hacking is just lag. And that hacking largely doesn’t exist. He cited LoL, a game with infinitely more shit that would by its very nature make running hacks more of a hassle and acts like that makes it an impossibility.
Oh no. You had disagreed with him so now the bot shut down XD
Yup, not really a hack, on PC with graphics set to 0 there is no foliage so you can see across the map. Not sure why, but its in game and not a hack. I’m preete sure some one made a post recantly about this, with example videos - on one of them they demonstrated how a PC player can see pred from across the map with graphics set to 0.
Firstly, he’s talking about ps4 players einstein in which case it isnt my problem if the hax are coming from ps4 players, which negates your own point about pc players being crazy aimbot cheaters.
Dont know how ps4 “hacking” works but I believe the console has to be jailbroken, which is a completely different process, said hackers wouldn’t be able to connect to playstation network as soon as Sony drops an update. So not my problem there.
Now you’re just being an idiot for the sake of it, nice quora link tard but atleast you’re bothering to learn to google shit now. For you next lesson, explain why someone playing league cannot noclip through the map and then maybe you’ll finally get it. DDOSing isn’t a wallhack and neither is scripting to see where skillshots are coming and going. Stop moving the goalposts.
There are scripts and bots in league of legends not “hacks” and it has nothing to do with them catching it because those orbwalking bots run rampant in Player vs AI matches. No one is speedhacking and one shotting your nexus so hacking just means whatever you want it to mean. Scripting isnt hacking anymore than a macro is. The client side inputs still have to go through the server so players CANNOT CHANGE VALUES alllll THE WAY DOWN TO WHERE THE PLAYERS ARE ON THE SCREEN regardless of how you feel about it welcome to modern serverside gaming.
League DOES desync if you suffer from packet loss. Lag causes desync and desync causes lag it just depends on where data’s coming from. The only difference is that it FREEZES you or appears to stutter. Then it catches up and you’re dead. If an FPS froze you everytime you were weren’t synchronized with the server it would be fucking unplayable with a 100+ ping which is why this isn’t the case in PHG. They just let you run around while you’re actually frozen and proceed to die across the whole map.
Despite League obviously having the better netcode do you wonder why you get no stuttering or freezing as pred despite not being synchronized with the server genius? To give the pred player a smooth experience rather than just freezing him and waiting for the server to rollback.
Now it is my turn to ask if you are a schizophrenic because at what point did I claim hacking was exclusive to PC? Lol. Also consoles tend to be, at the least, more awkward to run hacks on and such so if PS4 players can do it that means the PC players are even more capable of doing it as well which kinda defeats your whole argument.
They probably can no clip on LoL but it’s kinda pointless and Riot games does tend to good at catching it. I never really saw any hackers when I played but just because you hear no evil and see no evil doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. And way to not actually address the argument and just repeat yourself.
Is there an echo in the room? Because that’s exactly what I just said you retard. Or do you not know how to read? Lol. So your argument there is kinda pointless because the desync causes a totally different sequence of events than an FPS where it just freezes like I just told you.
And yeah you can still hack in it but the very design of the game makes it a cluster fuck to do so and even if you do manage it and don’t get caught it could still basically mean nothing. And every game out there has this shit you are talking about to intercept the shit but that isn’t the end all be all or there would be no hacking period because it would be so easy to catch and shut down.
In other words you are just repeating the same line of there is no such thing as hacking even though their clearly is. And on another note I like how you mocked me for presenting examples of hacking and shit that were all
FPS based and acted like that was irrelevant to PHG because they were different titles and then turn around and compare PHG to a fucking MOBA with some hundred or more champions and a company that has a solid reputation of being able to mostly intercept hackers.