Coffee's Hunting Grounds Re-Design #1

I think the simple fact that the best they could come up with for target iso was red and white circles speaks miles about their capabilities there. All the foliage is either really taxing or they just want a really streamlined game or both.

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30 min of actual like match match not saying 30 min worth of objectivesā€¦ objectives would be min 5 min and upto 15 min depending how bad or good u do themā€¦ but they cant be speedran so yeahā€¦ 5 min would be so little for the match objectivesā€¦ ill say 10 min is idealā€¦ minā€¦ and can last upto 15 minā€¦ so 30 min overall of matchā€¦ and when timer ticks 0 its win for pred i guessā€¦

Cloak behavior is currently very shit if u ask me likeā€¦ still needs 40% more polishingā€¦ better textures and how AI acts when pred is cloakedā€¦

anyways the 30 min is keyā€¦ so both parties dont have to hurry and stress over timeā€¦ like as predator u dont stress due to fireteam insta losing if clock tics 0ā€¦ but fireteam is forced to speedrun thoā€¦ which is sadā€¦ as predator when i play i often also speedrun myself just to nullify the speedrunning

Rate le re-designā€¦ probs my finalā€¦

Ill ā€œhireā€ friend of mine as shes very good with artā€¦ and she worked as a moderator team for evolve :D

even tho i probs could have asked @Papa_Applepie

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@Noktrum @NeonPred @Nova @MassImpact124 @Mr_Mojo_Rising

What? -_o

No. Iā€™m fine with branching pathways based on performance but complete rng is too much. Right now each mission has a mini story to it that branching paths can take advantage of but not complete rng.

Define speedrun.

It also depends on where this game goes. We could go the siege route of several short rounds or we could go the Overwatch route of one or two long rounds.

Ya Iā€™d say 30 minutes is fair.

The timer needs to be tight imo. Force FT to push the objective and garuntee that Pred has time pressure by nature. Not by artificial changes made to force playstyles.

Yes

A cycle? No but Iā€™d be fine with straight up night missions as long as we can still see clearly.

Yep. I love snow and rain.

Iā€™d say Predator also needs a bit of input. Like getting to the obj first will allow him to tamper/hack it which will make the mission longer.

But ya branching paths in missions sounds fun.

Iā€™m 50/50

On one hand Iā€™d rather health be consistent but in the other this could create some cool dynamics like a gear item that can replace armor and areas where Pred can interact for about a heal time crafting weaker armor to replace his.

And in general this could lead to mid battle crafting like in AVP which I would like.

Like the minigun takes more stamina? (If you could run obviously)

A. Thatā€™s what mobility is for

B. Iā€™d rather the stats just be balanced the way they are.

Either

A. This is pointless because itā€™s weak

B. It activates so fast it doesnā€™t matter or

C. It takes a decent while to activate in which case you would just cancel the sprint and restart. If itā€™s based on stamina left then you did nothing except make running take more stamina.

Not to mention running is an essential part of the flow of the game for FT I wouldnā€™t touch it.

Walk straight up to an A.Iā€™s face while crouching :p

Remove reinforcements

I actually think we should nerf gear healing and put more empthesis on natural healing like pigs to open up more gear diversity since the healing items are literally the best items in the game.

All you did was give it multiple uses and show mudded FT footprints as well as a reduced cooldown. Either way I donā€™t care. TI is good as is but a buff isnā€™t going to skewer my opinion of it.

Iā€™ll need to see a visual because that sounds broken.

No thatā€™s aweful. Rip plasma caster thatā€™d kill it. Thatā€™s not a buff thatā€™s a nerf.

why all of a sudden this? Coffee2Go didnā€™t you bash me one time for talking like i know stuff about videocards? being all hostile and shit? Those jabs still linger to this day. Why do you want me to read your thread? i donā€™t think you apologized for that. now youā€™re acting all nice?

LIKE ze post V_V

game was marketed as asymmetrical PVE game which is based on full RNGā€¦ but scripted like damage and shitā€¦ depending on like few stats n shitā€¦ soo ill say ur kinda wrong but i see where ur goingā€¦

By speedrun i mean there is no RNGā€¦ people already know which mission objectives they are just from the name lolā€¦ this game has 0% rngā€¦ lmaoā€¦ literally 0% ā€¦ its all pre scriptedā€¦ and pre-scripted content can be speedran if learned by muscle memoryā€¦ the max objectives last are 5minā€¦ and usually 3minā€¦

ok yeah @Fire has actually great idea where if they camped the predator target isolation lets predator know by like an alert that there is an increased temperature readings in that area and the prey is probably (obv) located at so then predator needs to go there and scan with target isolation and then hunt themā€¦

Well not a cycle like fast af cycleā€¦

I meant like the map variants where it puts in like a dusk, morning, evening, midnightā€¦ etcā€¦

Yeah kindaā€¦

Yeah smth like thatā€¦ ill let the devs decide for that part lolā€¦

U know what i meant

Thats what i wanted but doubt the devs will doā€¦ so rather make it 50% respawn

Good ideaā€¦ also will let devs think about this moreā€¦

Depends a lot of people would think of this as a nerfā€¦ but idk why you see it as a buff XDā€¦ well it can be good if you use it wellā€¦ and suck if u use it wronglyā€¦ its sort of passive abilityā€¦ and will become a passive ability if they add itā€¦

yeah sure man sec i made it like a yr agoā€¦ another topic about the cloak visuals to resemble the looks of how the predator looks like for predator playerā€¦

LMFAOā€¦ this one i will agree is a shot in blank was worth a shotā€¦

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This is a test i did with fireā€¦ umm it takes a sec to see the predatorā€¦ he kinda looks like phermone vision from predator 1990 lmao that truck sceneā€¦ anyways i want smth like thisā€¦

anyways this next one i will show u is from the first movieā€¦

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the next one is from predators 2010

Anyways i want it to look like combo of these two picsā€¦ more like predators 2010

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When

Not to mention thereā€™s marketing and reality.

Thatā€™s not a problem. Yes matches are too short but speedruning inherently is not bad as long as itā€™s balanced around it.

RE: resistance is literally a multiplayer game based on speedruning.

Hollow knight has a YT who is literally Playing PVP with people trying to interrupt a speedrun.

Ya Iā€™m fine with that.

As long as theres no sunsets. Sunsets are ugly.

No I want to do that now :p rpg the game

Fair enough

Idk. This is something that needs to be play tested because practice over theory and you definitely canā€™t theory this.

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I play tested it myselfā€¦ also did test with fireā€¦

This is what i would say it should look like moreā€¦ with better texturesā€¦ when like moving fast

That would be 80% invisibility if u ask meā€¦

and then i would say it should be 100% fully non visible for human eye when not movingā€¦ and 99.9% invisible when moving fast in distance and leapingā€¦ and it should shimmer but only very so slightly

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I would be fine if they didnt market it as a PVE immersive asymmetrical gameā€¦ and made it as PVP symmetrical shooter game.

It shouldnt even be balanced around on speedrunningā€¦ unless they just re-market the game and make it just pvp symmetrical gameā€¦ the speedrun is a immersion killer for most of us hereā€¦ even if i play as fireteam it fucking makes me feel like deleting the game right after when i see even slight game mechanic abuse to winā€¦ that shouldnt be a thingā€¦

I meantā€¦ when you are mudded up and crouched behind them, you can perform a stealth kill and slit throats or stab someone in back, maybe even they can add to carry a body and hide it in bush like in hitmanā€¦ either way crouching shouldnt alert anyone or let anyone see u from behindā€¦ especially for predator lmao

Also even in the predator 2018, you cant see a fking predator when hes standing still lmaoā€¦ as some of members of this community pointed out in 87ā€™ movie they were able to see pred on the treeā€¦ the scene with like hiding under trunkā€¦

This pic is from the movie where first encounter and he just decloakedā€¦ from closer distance

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constantly moving btwā€¦

Wait are you saying asymetrical immediately means RNG?

No it doesnā€™t asymetrical just means two sides with apposing abilities face each other.

A. The focus was always on Pred v.s FT. Any mention of PVE was because, itā€™s technically PVE.

B. How does that affect speedruning? Speedruning is primarily done in PVE games so.

The best players will speedrun. So balancing around that is mandatory.

I know what you meant I was just making a joke :p

No im saying its a MUST have randomized missions, randomized pig spawns, i donā€™t mind pre set spawn points for fireteamā€¦ as long predator does not spawn as its been scripted rnā€¦ like realistically lets be honestā€¦ isnt it a fun killer for u when u play either of both sidesā€¦ and then u see like predator knowing when u are by like spawning at same place as fireteam spawnsā€¦ its always that placeā€¦ and u can just go meet up with them half way trough lolā€¦

Ok so basically it technically is due to pigs, and AIā€¦ but then again what people can and are using and are seeing now that they can use againts one anotherā€¦ is highly a fun killerā€¦

they are able to like abuse pig spawns for exampleā€¦ they are able to mainly abuse the match objectivesā€¦ like realistically at this point its not fun anymore and its likeā€¦ oh yay this match objective scriptā€¦ its gonna take 3 min to completeā€¦ woooā€¦ its sort of like that for meā€¦ lmaoā€¦ i see others knowing that too by mudding up and leaving ditching us with pred and going mudded up to pre- clear maps and buildings for next mission objective only for us to like wait for the objective timer the orange one to decrease and for us to exfilā€¦