Coming form the predator side.

do you ever debate with out throwing insults? real question.

Yup, thought so too. Judging by their comms with our community, they are following the exactly same path as they did with F13… not looking good at all. Look at how many times, and how many people asked already for removing the ability to mark a cloaked predator, as its the most ridicules and unfair exploit that was ever put in to a stealth game… its not that they did not address this issue in the latest patch - they haven’t even comment on the problem once!. Just not giving one single shit.

what do you mean it is pay too win atm? you pay to get Dutch the support/Recon role

you pay to get a nade launcher and an assault rilfe as your 1st weapon so you can bring more ammo and fire power.

how is it not pay to win right now? you pay for the deluxe and can level up faster then anyone else and after the next dlc its gonna be the same shit watch, " wanna do better with predator? buy the dlc." why cant devs ever make their own games anymore why do they always have to coppy every other game. fuckin borring.

Yeah, I’m still learning but I’m pretty comfortable with how it works now. Three weeks of constantly playing this game and it feels natural to not see my character, comfortable using ADS etc I’m having a blast.

But I don’t see how that makes anything I say any less relevant. The point is, from how you’ve laid it out, that PC FT when using exploits and coordinated is unwinnable, and the new gun has made it worst therefore the gun itself needs to be nerfed…have I missed anything? This isn’t a personal attack, I’m not going at YOU but the logic of the argument. And as a player, whether I’ve been playing FPS a long time or not, my opinion is that I shouldn’t keep accepting nerfs here and buffs there to compensate for the consequences of others exploiting the game mechanics itself.

Games don’t get balanced around people exploiting things with there visual settings lol. I agree that Dutch is strong though. Good stamina strong health and the drop of his new weapon. Pretty good. But I don’t think a predator buff would be healthy at the moment. If the team makes any mistakes or spreads out even the slightest bit, you can insta punish them. Now yes some teams don’t make those mistakes, but that’s also how asymmetrical games are balanced. Until you’ve eliminated a team member the Fireteam needs to fuck up for the predator to make a move. Otherwise the predator would be entirely too strong, if without making a single misstep the fireteam could just be blitzed. I don’t wanna see the skill of the predator become irrelevant

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Mate, if you are going to insult people, at least try to spell correctly… English is also not my native language but at least I try to check my spelling before I will post anything.

Unless English is your native language… if so, then sweet fucking baby Jesus Christ in heaven man…

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Dude, no need to be an asshole. He has a legitimate grievance and he expressed it maturely and respectfully so at least react accordingly šŸ™„

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i said the gun or the fireteam I said and i qoute " Some sorta nerf needs to happen to the fire team"

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I tried talking to him several times. Almost as much as I did with buddah. But while he may not be as bad, he just likes to throw out 1 liners and never actually have a conversation.
So he annoys the hell outa me.

But back on topic, what did you mean going back to zerk meta?
They nerfed him so he seems useless now. Like in the sense that zerk doesn’t stand out.

A huge problem I feel is that they’re listening to the wrong feedback.

i mean when you can on the fly with out thinking choose between Heavy damage or Heavy DPS players are going to get melted so they’ll look at this and think well i need more health to DO anything so they’ll switch back over to Zerker meta.

don’t call the God name in vain.

Zerker just got nerfed though. So possibly not

you mean ā€œdont speak the lords name in vain?ā€ im not even trying to insult you here just trying to help you out.

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the melee did not the slam or his range weapons so i dissagree

We’ll see if it still works. Like I said I think the nerfs made him a bit less viable. But idk. I dont play zerk, and atm, it looks like he has nothing to really offer.

And it seems there’s only one solution to this right here. They cancel crossplay, and split their teams so that PC have dedicated Devs working on that side of the issues and PS4 Devs doing the same for us.

But let’s be real, and I’m not saying this smugly or anything before anyone takes it out of context, this always happens with PC games. I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again because it really was painful to see. The PC community begged Rockstar to have Red Dead Redemption 2, and finally they got their wish. Within 12hours, PC gamers had completely destroyed the online game with mods, exploits and all those things that they do to get advantages. 12hrs before the onslaught of videos from PC gamers hit YouTube showing the hell being unleashed on that game world. Funny exploits sure, seeing cougars spawn out of nowhere in packs and attacking people was funny…but it ruined the game for everyone who wanted to actually experience the game. Red Dead Online for PS4 however, is still very much alive albeit bugged as hell and lacking be content.

the name of God in vain
THE FUCKING NAME OF GOD!!!

We just had that conversation mate! Spell correctly!!!

Jesus Christ…

This is not an insult but the truth. that’s why it burns.

yea i agree pc players will do that but i mean nothing you can really do there.

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You disagree he was nerfed? Even though his melee damage was nerfed? Also not to be super argumentative but I don’t get the issues with the slam. It’s got a small radius, and I’ve tested it multiple times, the animation the predator goes through, gives you enough time to stim and full heal. Or, the whole team can just wreck him while he’s stuck in place. Slam=Noob Smasher