Its amazing haha, OP was right to show this. My new favourite. I do avoid slamming buildings but other than that, its great fun! Just love seeing uncoordinated teams panic and run around trying to work out what to do.
Just netted 7 kills in my latest match, combination of slamming and nets.
Im dub’ding the build
“The Slam Jam”
Ive been calling it the “Poop and Scoot.” But in reality, that is what you could call any Scout build.
just did some testing that thing deals full damage any where in the blast area that inclues throw walls it also deals 95 points of Damage if you dont use the perk that gives you more engry if you do its 99 and if your low on engry like less or at 5% it goes as low as 81 damage and it works of a % system form 5% up too 100% so thats how you gage how much damage your dealing, the thing has a 12 foot long blast range that works in a bubble shape and its Proxxy so as long as their with in that 12 feet it doesnt matter how many walls are between you and him the damage is base souly on how much engry you have.
Enjoy that little pice of info guys happy wrecking ;)
Oh look, once again we chose to reply for the sake of replying without actually giving any insight as to how this exploit is not an “exploit”. lmfao. But hey - it’s always good to smack u here so I’ll bite.
You still don’t know how to counter slam. I’m embarrassed for you.
k im not sure if your being sarcastic or not but if you not.
its not an exploit because it works as intended. is it unblanced? maybe. but i’d argue that its just as Unblanced as 4 man support stacking with thick skin and heal spaming. so fair game im my oppion.
would i be ok with them to nerf it? oh for sure the thing is so busted in some areas. but i wouldnt touch it with out touching the support/thick skin/heal spaming/4stacking bull shit. if they nerfed that i would be more then happy to see a nerf hit the slam for sure.
You still don’t seem to be able to grasp atleast one example as to how this exploit is good for the game’s health.
Go share your wisdom as to how you “counter” an exploit. Do that and let me prove you wrong in an instant because I know exactly what you gonna say next lol.
That’s a wishful thinking. All you need to do is to look at mine and your reply history. Cute.
its not your right i full agree with you but the part your wrong about is both sides have “exploits” so thats why its not that bad for either side atm its good for the games health intell they patch both exploits and then its REALLY good for the games health
ok not a a problem stay with in line of sight of your buddys but 12 feet away form each other the moment you hear the predator keep your eyes open the moment he slams in hose him down and hunt his ass intell he either goes down or leaves then press heal and move on.
the build doesnt have much healing you only get two healing kits so once there gone its pretty easy to rush OBJ so i mean.
plus on drop of that he doesnt have much stam too run away with, with that build ANNNNDD no combistick so i mean for you guys it should be a dream come ture.
dude your wrong and your talking shit your just making your self look worse by actting like you know whats up. if i was you i would take the towel and just dip man just split.
Wrong. Just because “both” sides have exploits - doesn’t mean it’s good for the game. Exploits like bunnyhops where already addressed in previous patch just as example. Next thing is the roof and slam exploits. They are definitely getting worked on because they are in NO WAY intended to be there to begin with.
Except it’s not in a slightest. I wont bother repeating myself for the 10th time so I’ll just leave it here
Idk at what level you play, but if you are another guy playing random ass pubs - this isn’t even worth discussing. If you move to actual P:HG comp discord (the biggest one) where people make pre-made teams with and play with high lvl predators - first thing you’ll see is that EVERY fking exploit is banned in the rules section of that discord. That includes knife stamina exploit, roof and ground slam exploits along with the others. I wonder why it’s that way huh? Oh wait - because people who run that place knows that no exploits should be allowed in high lvl plays.
While you give me the TYPICAL 'bruh stay outta slam reach" reply with no actual backup to it. How is staying outta slam reach (that is if u’ll see it coming from a good pred) change anything? It doesn’t change the fact that it’s still an exploit because hit or miss - I can still move outta there.
Next thing is - you gonna tell me the roof exploit is also not an exploit and that it’s also “heatlhy” for the game? Move the f outta here, man.
“Dude you are wrong”. DuDe Im nOt WrOnG because I actually give examples and legit points in all of my replies to that clown. I even bothered to invite him on discord to show what it is playing with actual FT that uses coms, not low level pub randoms. If you actually cared to read the whole post history - you wouldn’t be spitting such dumb nonsense in the first place (no offense).
ehhhhhhhhhhh i think its intended its ment to deal fuck tones of Damage to a large area to stop people form grouping up so much and i’d say it does its job well.
ok for that qoute you didnt even read it as. i said when they patch the exploits its REALLY good for the games health unless your point is yes exploits is good for its health then whatcha bitching about again?
fair you do give points, but i wouldnt say there very good ones as most of your points is built on putting words in peoples mouths ( going off what you did with our debate) so i mean kinda gotta shoot that one down my dude.
There’s nothing to actually suggest its not intended. Least the damage through the roof. Pred can be damaged by grenades around corners and through walls. Barrel explosions hit round corners and through walls too.
Tbf i don’t think it would be completely out ot the question for an alien energy discharge to pass through human constructs to some degree.
Seems like it’s usual DbD thing is starts here. Once killer (monster or etc) gets some useful weapon or ability people starts whine “nerf this” and “nerf that”, devs doing that = nobody wants to play killer = game dying. Don’t forget you’re prey for single hunter, not four hunters for single prey. Nobody wants to be a helpless clown. Take the challenge against powerful hunter and enjoy the hard win or take defeat. When i playing Predator i play only hunter and scout and more often facing coordinated teams, using energy-slam very rare, cuz any animation ends 3-4 weapons aims straight to my head. When i played human i met energy-slam “exploit” just one time and i don’t think this is exploit as well, we made a mistake staying in close room. He slams us one time and we began to heal ourselves instead of going out and make him suffer. More oftenly i met berserkers with spears making matches over in 2-3 mins with stupid rush-attack, and i still don’t think it still same a big trouble, they earns nothing. Only mind-games profitable and gives me around 10-12k of EXP points playing predator. Somebody wants EASY level and simple ways so let them be too (it’s good start for newbies).
If this game is balanced by people like you then high level play is fucked.
You don’t understand how safe going into a building is to heal do you. Leap smashing the roof means the FT have to work for that heal just like the predator does.
You don’t understand how dumb this reply is, even tho Im not surprised at all. Don’t speak about “high level” plays when you don’t even seem to know what that actually is. Infact all these exploits are banned in high lvl games (most active discord server for pre-made games with no randoms do not allow that).
You are also seem to be incapable to realize one thing that time is on your side. If FT turtles in a build - bully them with energy free plasma shots, throw a disk, shoot arrows - distract surrounding areas with noise makers, change your position by leaping - repeat. Slam dunking is literally risk free and easy af to accomplish there’s a reason why you don’t use that shit in high lvl games. In pubs it’s especially free because people are so unaware of it.
I was a pro Evolve player so I understand high level play and high level play for this game is the predator getting absolutely murdered. He needs every little bit of help he can get to stand a chance.
Time is on predators side eh…jesus
The FT go in there, cover the entrance while everyone heals up and leaves. Time doesn’t factor into it.
Admittedly a genuine high level FT will heal wherever the hell they want because they put out so much damage the predator will have to retreat and also try to heal.
Room slam being banned in a discord does not mean anything and knowing discord it’s probably a decent level of play but nothing like the true high level teams out there that mean the game is already over before it’s begun.
The over powered side trying to get more of an advantage…what a shock.
I didn’t ever said FT isn’t OP - infact I believe they are OP as hell. And I would even agree with you that if you are up against really good PC FT with comms - it’s almost impossible to win with Pred and playing guys who know what they are doing and spam spotting / aim like CS players. It’s nuts how hard it is. On THAT I don’t disagree.
What I don’t agree is that Pred slam exploit is an excuse to “even” the chances. It’s still an exploit and that’s a fact - IllFonic should fix that shit and think of ways as to how to make Predator more viable without the need for players to use exploits to get a chance to win games against any decent Fireteams.
In fairness illfonic haven’t said, fkin anything, whether they consider roof slam or the animation cancel an exploit. But that aside until predator gets help at the high end this is a way that gives him a small chance. I very much doubt a strong FT wants to get nothing but wins all day because they have the balance favour.
If illfonic are not going to balance the game then we will have to via house rules. And if FT are going to demand this goes then that will only mean more of a hit on what they will not be allowed to use. I’m talking regular stuff here like no snipers, only one person can take medkits. Stuff like that.
It’s the same the other way around: nobody wants to play FT = game dying. And look at the queues right now. There are already not enough FT-players.
And I often come across posts in this forum from self-proclaimed “Pred mains” which are like “Winning for FT should be hard and a challenge! I want to feel like a Dark Souls Boss to them.”
That is just a wrong approach to a Predator game, even according to lore. They don’t hunt squirrels or rabbits. They hunt the most dangerous prey they can find. They enjoy the danger, the challenge. So a Predator Player should enjoy to be challenged or wants to challenge himself all the time. A trophy that wasn’t earned by hard work is nothing.
Did nobody read my previous posts?
This is an exploit and I feel fairly confident that we have discovered the cause of this.
But if you guys want to talk about a rework for the leap slam ability, then I am 100% happy for this, personally I am happy if everyone wants the Pred to move after its leap slam ability but here are my concessions:
There is no flash/slow for FT hit by it
The Pred enters a fatigued state after putting “so much energy into the slam” meaning that leap/sprint/attacking is unavailable for 2-3 seconds in place of a root
