That’s true. But Predator is not the reason of it. If you make Predator weakier the game will not be more popular. Take off bugs, give intresting content for FT and there will be a lot of people. Why the game isn’t much popular right now? Just seen two bad reviews. Both of them about boring gameplay, stupid AI, monotonous missions and Ta Daa weak Predator. One intresting thing people have right now kill the Predator and get 100 lvl.
Energy-Slam EXPLOIT - IllFonic please fix it ASAP
You are one of those people that would have looked at quake 3 strafe jumping and said, “It’s unbalanced and the developers never intended that!”
Without roof slamming there would just be teams moving building to building where predator is extremely weak.
Without the slam glitch it would make the slam basically useless in normal combat. The combistick animation is horrendous, there’s no good reason to make it 3 seconds. It doesn’t matter if it blinds because people outside the radius won’t be affects and can shoot the predator.
Low level predator skills need a nerf, but high level skills need a buff.
The fucking combistick should not lock on and needs reduced damage so its used as just a melee finisher. It’s too much of a newb weapon and high level players can abuse the crap out of the utility it has.
I do feel the intent for the leap slam is meant to be a finisher, not an opener, you are meant to quickly take down a FT on their last legs (while likely you are too for the previous skirmish). To jump into a FT at full health is just asking for trouble you are meant to be downing FT members with this move to negate so of the damage you are going to receive.
I think balancing with the current 1vs4 mode will be extremely tough. Finding a good balance, which is okay for below- or average players as well as for experienced and competitive Players and also taking into account the differences between PC and PS4, might become impossible. However, the playerbase is certainly not large enough to balance for only one group only, as you run the risk of losing the other players, which of course increases the waiting time extremely.
If you make the change suggested, then people will just start moving as a pack and it’s basically a predator nerf.
But by design I feel like that is how the leap slam was created, with the root being intentional it puts the pred is a bit of an awkward position and so using it as an opener as a bad idea where using it as a finisher to drop maybe 1-2 FT members gives you more breathing room, I feel like its there to help the Pred get that little extra burst of damage once they have managed to whittle down the FT before they heal.
Also top tier play of FT they all move around in a pack anyways?
Perhaps a ranked mode would be best, but unfortunately the player numbers are probably much too low for that.
Depending on the rank, you could assign Multipliers or feats to the fire team or the predator, such as +10% HP, +10% Plasma Caster Damage, -10% Melee Damage, Predator is unspottable etc. to meet the different requirements of the different skill groups.
Would make balancing for the different skill levels much easier.
I do also want to point out that I do want to see the Pred buffed in multiple ways, I am a FT main and I want to see top tier pred play reach the same as FT play because I do feel its geared towards FT.
But what I dont want to see is exploits that give one side a huge advantage over the other hence my discussion on this point, so yes take this exploit away but give the pred a buff in return.
Reducing the damage to half on the slam while keeping the glitch will allow it to be used as a closer but also an opener for teams that clump up too closely.
One of the problems with the slam with the long animations is that it’s very punishing for newb predators that miss, but it’s also very punishing because it does 83-98 damage to fire teams that clump up badly.
So if you reduce the damage so it only does 50 damage, fire team still have enough health to counter play it and if the animation lock was removed a predator that missed could still get out of it. Now, he would still have some retribution in that the fireteam would do damage, but it would be no where near the amount if he had been stuck in the 3 second combistick animation.
Personally why not just remove the glitch and allow the pred to move? either like you said and reduce the damage to half and maybe put them in a fatigued state no running/leaping/attacking for 2-3 seconds but allowing them to be manoeuvrable to avoid eating bullets?
That would be best.
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Ffs if anything all of the pred melee weps need the tracking combi has, and you know combi has the lowest melee damage right?
So no, it doesn’t need a nerf.
A lot of competitive circuits come up with their own set of rules, I am interested in what these are. Do you happen to have a link to this P:HG competitive Discord?
I wouldnt say its a competitive discord but they are trying to make a competitive area within it, try this group:
oh boy, competitive gameplay rn is a mistake lol. Illfonic needs to fix the game first before it’s close to being viable
Lowest theoretical damage. The lock on makes it have some of the high effective damage, plus it has blind and a strong range attack. On paper it looks weak, but all of the top predators see it as a tier 1 melee.
Look man, all of the pred weapons should have the tracking the combi does. Or they need to make melee feel smoother. Cause no matter what wep, it feels slow and stiff.
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Elder blade is the worst I feel…yet so much potential. I experimented using it last night on Berserker(since that was the appeal to me since they hit harder with melee) and while it was effective indoors on FT it still feels very off(tho the animation combo is badass) it just leaves me too vulnerable if im not landing. Maybe if part of the combos animation lunges you forward in some manner it’d feel more useable.
The predator twirls his fucking weapon or arms around after the slam and you can’t move at all so you are stuck in an animation…if you can move afterwards pls share the Intel or i will call this straight up Bullshit claim