I’m not really sure what the solution is, there could be many.
The main point I am trying to make by the post is that if you have a game where the FT’s main job is to merely survive the predator but they then instead go out of their way to hunt him down and melee him, you have a problem.
Every game for the FT should feel like a major accomplishment if they manage to get to the chopper safely. However, I see many FTs who make it their main mission to exclusively hunt the predator and are not scared of it at all.
Clearly you have a flaw in your system when the FT actively want to engage and melee with the Predator. That’s not the design intention.
Main point is that the FT does not view the predator as a credible threat.
FT does not fear the Predator
The game is supposed to feel like a hunt. I’m not asking for the FT to be helpless, but it often feels like a fox hunt where the FT are the hounds going after the predator and the predator is outgunned. I wonder if that’s how Illfonic wanted it to be. The Predator should not be invulnerable and it should definitely take skill but it seems odd when a team of humans is actively chasing down the Predator.
If the predator is good he does the hunting. If not he plays berserker and wins most matches vs random by leaping in and smashing 1 button.
Now if you’re down in health, even in second wind and people are “hunting” you with knives out it makes perfect sense. Knifes out = more speed trying to track you down and finish you.
If you buff the predator any more you’re going to kill random que. Right now berserker needs a clear nerf.
I would say that even this looks broken:
See? This is a good predator, watch how he plays. Who does the hunting, hmm?
I agree with you, Jaeger486
Watch the above video and tell me who was doing the hunting. Now if you expect to just “hunt” because you are OP and fireteam needs to “fear” you because they are completely helpless… Let’s just hope we don’t get there.
Bye, Felicia Xan84
First of all, playing on PC is a huge difference in accuracy from using a controller.
Secondly, we all have good games and bad games.
Thirdly, a well coordinated FT on comms has no fear of the predator and will actively hunt it down. The second you move you will be spotted. You miss with an arrow, they will spot spam the entire ridge line or trees where the arrow came from.
Again, I am not saying make the FT weaker, but the fact is that in most cases the Predator is not scary for the FT at all. If you feel confident running up to the predator and solo knifing it, even if you fail, that’s a clear sign that something is wrong.
What?
No idea how its on a controller but I’ve hear about people doing fine. Even if its worse you want to balance the predator based on that?! What about PC players then? They get to dominate? Just no.
A well coordinated FT does fear a good predator based on what I’ve read from some predators around here who where bragging.
If we’re dealing with randoms since those are the vast majority, people fear the predator.
FIRETEAN GOALS:
…They can escape on the chooper or they can take the Predator down and its body over to the OWLF.
Ya ok. But blood thirsty is fucking annoying than a mother fucker. Pretty fucking lame. The whole narrating every single little fucking thing is annoying as shit.
Here’s an actual good youtuber and player.
I randomly got to that video by youtube automatic “jumping” from one to another. Point is a good predator can hunt for sure and the majority are random teams, not well coordinated predamades.
You’re comment made me die a little inside lol
“He’s an actual good youtuber and gamer”
I’m only replying to you in a joking manner of course when I commented above, I wanna get to that type of level and quality in my YT videos like the one you linked. 😅
I mean I get the frustration with some pred players that get hunted. One of the main problems is by now everyone knows all the angles a pred can attack from. But there’s no real solution to that aside from leaping around all over.
Another prob is pred is squishy as fuck. And how easy it is for ft to heal. Idk I’ve gotten used to it, but I get where preds complaining are coming from.
Like quite a few ppl have said, if the maps were bigger, and match timer was longer it would be a start. And more complex missions for ft. Idk. Basically a more stealth focused gameplay for pred.
Everyone does not know the angles lol. At least not with the random I’ve been playing delay. I am almost lvl 90 and out of all those games (only 3 where with the predator) only once people had mics (everybody).
Most of the times people get hit multiple times even before they know where its coming from.
Predators are not squishy as fuck. I noticed multiple times people trading blows with the predator (from a distance) and it does not end well for the fireteam. Predator has multiple ways of hitting and then avoiding line of sight, apearing again and hitting again only to hide before you can retaliate.
Its not easy for the FT to heal aside for the self healing. Medkits usually means you are running a support sacrificing damage and also when you use the medkit a good predator can exploit the time it takes to use it, even inside, more so if they use the slam exploit. But plasma blasts, arrows from stealth (window/door) or the disk. If the predator just sits there, yeah, you can take him down fast with an LMG but that does not translate into an actual fight.
I would be ok with bigger maps and longer games but that would mean upgrading the fireteam. A good predator needs just 1 mistake to floor the entire team. Predators on the other hand can escape really easy making punishing mistakes extremely hard. Complex mission would also screw up casual/randoms badly. Perhaps you don’t care for them but I am sure you care for your que time and losing those, guess what happens.
Easy answer to this issue, remove reinforcements but take down gear weight for medical bag because having 3 grenades weigh more is just ridiculous, by doing this you’ll know longer have rambo’s even think twice hunting him.
That would be the dumbest idea possible. Even nerfing reinforcements would be dumb.
You deffo sound like you go in all like a stupid rambo head and expect fire team to respawn your ass LMFAO