Personally i liked it whin it had secondary weapon damage buff and 1 more perk point. Dunno bout the reason they nerfed this class since it never wasnt strongsrt class. What is your opinion?
FT Scout - weakest class?
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Currently the weakest FT class.
Weapon switch speed is fine but faster pick ups even running dexterous still means taking damage or getting downed.
The lack of gear points dealt hurts the class as you don’t have enough to run any of the new gear, if you take serette’s. Which you have to do because of such low health.
It’s my favourite class. I hope it does get some love in the future, in terms of tweaking. I think pick up speed should be replaced with Silence.
PS. I’d like gear to be rebalanced at lower point costs. The number of slot should be the limiting factor for most gear, not points. Self Revive should cost 2 points, same for the new grenade and UAV scanner. They’re all small hand held things.
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Scout needs the dexterity perk passively. Cause that’s pretty much the only reason to run scout is to run around rushing objective
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Its close with support for that rank if you ask me. Right now meda is assault or Dutches.
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Standart classes arent match for Dutches, except support in terms of health or scout in terms of speed. But they are no match for Dutch in every other terms
Support was nerfed into the ground with the change for medkit. The only relevant reason to run it was so you can have medkit and ammo bags on the same class. Now with something like more 60% nerf to medkits… No reason to run support since its slow as fuck. I run Dutch 87 with gearhead and prepper. I got enough ammo for like 90% of games and 3 STIMP are more then enough with whatever I can find on maps and even if the pred is good and destroy them… Its still pretty much enough.
Support also has 200 hp. Which is undeniably good. You can literally eat 2 combi throws without healing. So I think scout is the worst for sure
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I be destroyed with the scout ft in Clash tho. Running Thick skin, dbl time, iron lungs.
Nade,smoke, and flash. I have been decimating clash
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Only with thick skin man. You get 180 on Dutch but so much more then just HP on him. There is no reason to run support, like none! The speed that you get on Dutch let’s you avoid a lot of damage, including those combi throws instead of eating them up. Scout at least can run down the predator.
Now of course, this matters on what platform you play on, support is probably still better for console peeps who can’t dodge around the damage.
You get 180 with Dutch with thick skin as well? So you are counter arguing my point about support but then using the same point about Dutch. Don’t get me wrong. I think Dutch is the best(me and you had this conversation and you swore up and down assault was better than Dutch). But you can’t sit here and honestly say support is just as bad as scout. 200 hp plus you can carry basically any 3 items you want. It’s not a totally useless class
Scout has a leap which has almost no cooldown. You can do leap after leap after leap non stop.
FT Scout cant leap.
OOOh, shit! Haha.LOL
No, I am saying how little of an advantage has support over Dutch in the HP pool. Then add the rest and meh… Also Dutch was the first thing that cross my mind since he has lots of health, assault with thick skin sits at 175.
We had that discussion before the latest changes. The nerf to medkit and the buff to gearhead turned that around for me. I can have Thick Skin, gearhead and prepper on Dutch making my issues with restocking ammo and health not enough for asaault’s gear difference to change anything.
Now, if the guy on support is on PS I can agree with you, give a good PC players the scout and he is going to do well. Personally if I would set up a team, I would find it more easy to find a spot for a scout then a support in the current meta. Of course, I would probably just make it all dutches or throw 1 assault or 2 in there so the rest are not even going to see use.
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Also Dutch87 have mysterious damage reduction from dirt. Has any1 tested it?
Yes it was tested. It works. Its 10%. This dudes tested it:
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Honestly I love my scout. Pop double time and iron lungs on and just watch lil Usain Bolt on crack do rings around the map.
Mostly agreed. Also keep in mind I don’t think scout is not viable at all just harder to use than the other classes
Actually I should update that after the changes to double time and weapons training.
On topic, I tested scout vs recon speed and it was nearly identical, I seemed to be gaining on the recon slowly. I’m not sure that extra stamina is worth weapon switching and revive speed.
Maybe they could buff the revive speed 10% and drop the weapon switch speed and replace it with a passive for faster reloading.
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Scout with current cloak can be ran best at 100m without ever being seen and having major up time on energy. As it stands ive tested every class… the worst class is samurai inmo.
Ive said before scout has his niche and isnt listed on my tier list because inmo he could play without ever being spotted if you play him at ranged. Height advantage. Down range. Energy regen… he can be a pain staying on your ass with his smaller profile cloak making him difficult to see