Hardcore Hunt got people running scared?

This could be a good thread if it wasn’t for berz.

Idiot doesn’t realize jealou and xeno agree both advocates for a better game but IHATEFIRETEAM is currently using his last brain cell

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what can you expect from someone who only plays pred? I think the only player with a working brain who only plays pred is @SomeknowmeasXeno. A parrot has higher IQ than most people in this forum anyway.

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I mean TBF it’s not like I’ve never touched FT. I have multiple videos of me playing FT, even a 3 Hour Stream of me Solo’ing in Pubs with Izzy. Since Izzy is the only FT Class I really like outside of Scout, but FT Scout is just too unfair for Potatoes.

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Anything is unfair against potatoes, but at the same time, is not. For me potatoes deserve to be punished and purged from the game. Including some day 1 “veterans” who still play worse than 5 year old’s

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Isn’t this also due to a skill issue? Traps are easily destructible and detectable due to their visible invisibility and loud noise. Pigs can now be a high risk/high reward option now due to being able to cancel the process. Longer healing with Medkits would also give Fireteam a breathing chance to find resources and finish mission interactions too right? It’s simply adapting to a new course of the game then the usual muscle memory we have in the normal matches, its all about timing, proper teamwork, and tactics now, not just bum rushing everything.

Which in turn makes the matches draw out longer as people wanted but now they don’t? So what’s going on here?

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Had to stir up something to make people curious and try hard-core hunt.

I think what he’s complaining is that for the first time, he had to go out of his comfort-zone.

Nah I hate firepussies. Idc. Brrrrr

You’ve clearly never played against people like Samhain and Dan who make optimal use of traps.

If you buff interaction time, it means getting out of a trap now takes about 8 seconds instead of 5. You won’t hear or see the trap. It will be thrown to you with little chance of dodging it. Is not a “skill” problem.

Anyways, that’s not even the major issue. Nerfing Pred in any way is a big no no. If something affects pred, it has to be in a positive way. Dude’s be nerfed to the ground already

I never touched it cos i know i’m shit XD
I mean, my ft game was so weak that i had to rely on broken builds just to beat rando preds XD

Ew, a streamer :/

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What do you mean? Fireteam is also nerfed tho in bigger way that surpasses the Predator. Predator doesn’t have many mission interactions besides healing and can avoid Stargazer much easier then Fireteam. Fireteam on the other hand has to contend with a whole lot of situations on its plate that the Predator can use to it’s advantage. Can’t spot Predators anymore which would always result in concentrated fire on it when you got a floating green icon on it’s head. Even specializations like Field Medic becomes much more fair to use since it’s not insanely quick anymore. There is simply too much Fireteam nerf that the Predator can easily use in these situations, it’s a trade off. Predator gotta heal somewhere else, gives Fireteam time to also heal and do missions, both recover and come back to it, or depending on the situation one comes back stronger then the other. The tide and flow of the match changes but now it’s going to be more Predator favored.

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Half the people that brag about that stuff are bad because half of the players now are little squeakers who have only watched prey prey was good an all but start with the first movie

Edit: my point is half the players suck now

Trust me, I’ve play hardcore mode on both sides. Is still far easier as FT than Pred when you are playing with competent players

It’s always been that way, most players never learned how to get good or even know how it works.

If only there was more people to try it out, I would have a better overall experience of it as for the few times I went in, it was strongly balanced to Predator that isn’t very overpowering at all but enough for some kind of edge that it needed.

It is not balanced towards predator at all… like at fucking all

here’s what changes and why it sucks for Pred

FT HP 85% - Ok
FT Ammo 300% - Not okay, not at fucking all. FT has way too much ammo to begin with, now you wanna triple that???
No Spotting - Good
No reinforcement - Good

Interaction time 150% (Both) - Good for FT balance, very bad for Pred. Basically rules out quick claims even more than what they already are

No Map - Very fucking bad for pred. You will have the hardest time finding boars to heal, while FT has perma med kits all over the map, memorized, they don’t need a map to find them, pred does because boar spawning is random. FT does not need a map to progress mission, you still have a waypoint marked on your screen

No UI - which means you have to give up stealth in order to estimate how hurt are you. FT can see their bloody hands

Pred HP 95% - meh
Pred Ammo 300% - Irrelevant, as all ranged Pred weapons can be recovered, if only you would get 3 combi sticks and/or 9 disks… but you won’t
No scanning - Basically makes one of the best specializations, analytic, useless. FT still has specializations and only comms is affected
No Target Isolation - Tracker specialization gone.
Second wind HP 50% - Second wind and you are basically dead because you don’t have enough HP to run too far away. I guess is “balanced” in the sense that FT has no reinforcement, but without UI you are far too exposed to be quickly second winded and boom, you are dead.

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Yea Hardcore Hunt isn’t the best answer to the problems the game has but it’s a answer.

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I’m positively sure these can be tweaked in the menus. The mode doesn’t stay permanently with these changes when you switch to Hardcore Hunt.

Still got Stalker and now with Spotting removed, Disciplined is stronger for stealth tactics due to no longer getting pinned.

Can you just take off the predator symbol of being spotted or do the players have to individually doit in their option menus. Cuse it’s like this, pubs are the real deal, private can stack advantage and disadvantage due to connections and counsel platforms also the host. I’m not saying host will have advantage but the connections need to be smooth.

Indeed, I’d rather play My hardcore settings against premade deathsquads than facing them in standard servers xD

No Spotting, No healing, no respawn and no second win.