I think Target Isolation on round start should be tweaked

You don’t have to tell us that. We know it. Hey I even wrote that in my last reply

Care to find and quote me all those “fuck offs” that I did to people. Especially those that try to argue without any solid points whatsoever lol

How dare you!

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You are also, like, not funny. So all your strange attempts at jokes. Like dude it’s just us at this point you and me. So there’s no audience for your bad jokes. So you are just Cringe for the sake of being cringe.

Can we atleast agree the actual good fireteams, the few good ones, the target isolation scan is not a problem for them at all. Like the good ones will not be bothered at all. The only teams who MIGHT be hurt by it are teams you’d already butcher anyways?

It’s not a problem for the guys I know and we’ve never encountered a super elite player like the discord super preds so you should just leave the vast majority of players who are only here for some fun alone to enjoy the game. Like I said. I don’t know any FT players with this complaint.

I dunno. There’s never gonna be agreement here since I have directly seen how a FT muds up faster than target isolation cools down but you insist otherwise. I can’t change what I have seen and can only assume you’re playing people who can’t or don’t mud up quickly enough. Most games I play we are mudded and on the way for at least a minute before the pred arrives. Only twice has a scout pred shown up super fast but it was so fast that he could have done it without isolation anyway. So it’s just a non issue to 99% of rounds played.

Quote me.

I wouldnt have “blitzed” them the same way I did simply because of the fact that I wouldnt be able to move and jump around them as I do in the open. Any decend pre-made FT would melt a predator in a close building like that. You dont engage full health squad that sticks together in building. That’s like #1 rule playing against premade teams, hell even in pubs. But how can you know about it, right? You are just a regular clown who haven’t got to play a high lvl game yet (that’s okay, you have my epic ID for that!)

You don’t have to tell that either. I kept replying to you and other dude that this is what happens most of the time playing in Public servers against Randoms like these. Especially against teams that has majority of PS4 in them. Their aim is in no way or shape even remotely close to those of PC players.

It matters even against good ones, but again - how can u tell if your whole history of this game consists of you playing randoms in pubs. But Im real with you - if you want to play premade teams (against or as a FT) - im down for games. We have an active comp community despite the fact that this game is just barely 3-4 weeks old.

Lets agree to disagree. Im fine with that. It’s not like you gonna change my thoughts and I will change yours.

So they would have stayed in the building the whole time? Like dude come on. I get it you don’t wanna accept anything I say but you HAVE to realize you are just being argumentative here? Like CLEARLY I’m right here, like come on man atleast on this you have to admit. If it’s a team you can blitz, it’s a team you can blitz. If they are bad enough to all die at once you will have 100 chances through out the game to kill them all. And yes doofus even in my searches I have played against full teams of PC players on coms. It’s bound to happen. You’d also be surprised to hear it happens atleast relatively often. Not all the time but you get those good teams now and then and you realize it quick cause you can’t just go on them and wreck them instantly. We have all played 4 stack PC teams man. We know what it’s like. But anyways like you said at this point out of spite no ones agreeing so. That’s that I suppose

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Also I’m not quoting you because we both already know you said it. We are both men here (I assume) and I think we can atleast accept when we know we have said something. Go back and look for yourself if you really need to

What are you implying here lol? You wanted me to agree with you - I don’t. That’s what I said. And that’s totally fine because I made enough statements with actual explanations, just had to repeat it few times to few people (hence the quoting) and video proof. YOU choose not to agree with it or ignore it. Whatever lol.

Im not changing your mind and you are not changing mine. And that’s totally fine with me.
Just no need to lie about not being tilted when you are clearly are. Replying for the 4 hrs straight, to ALL of my replies, then writting in caps and shit lol

Where did you even get this idea? The fact is that I wouldnt be able to land those easy fully charged shots as I did there. On top of that I wouldnt even think of going into that building and start blasting my arrows because of how limited the space there is. That’s a big risk to get melted even in a public match (and death sentense or 2nd wind wish against pc pre-made teams with comms with CS-like players). No way to strafe in between the jumps, no way to confuse them apart from running forward or backwards from where I came. That’s if Im to be specific about the first video. So no, I wouldnt have ended that fast for sure. Whenever I don’t get the chance to spot them on the get go (when I myself choose not to) - public matches become a lot longer & enjoyable.

Keep it straight with you chief I’m chillin and answering here has been fairly fun. And I’ll say one last time alllll your anecdotal evidence doesn’t matter. Post 3000 videos none of it would matter. If you think there is a single team in this game that’s good, at all. That can be team wiped all at once. You have yet to see a good team. If you disagree with that statement that’s ok but just based on numbers, as in damage output predators health pool fireteam health, it’s true and we all know it. No good team gets wiped on a blitz

I just wanted to save this because this sums up everything in this thread and pub balance in general. Still don’t know what anyone is talking about but carry on.

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It describes all balance. Does it not? If you are that much better than the team you are playing that you just wipe them these trivial things like the scanner don’t really matter

Yes. All I need to do is to check you reply history lol. Caps, curses and promises for the “last” reply - just to get titled again and continue replying for the sake of replying with no real arguments whatsoever. Sure bud, sure lol. It’s been 4 hrs by now - lets see how much longer this gets.

Bold of you to think that your cringe worthy replies to legit videos and explanations are somewhat less anecdotal lol

Ofc it won’t. You just can’t accept that L, it’s hard to swallow. Hence why you say shit like that in the first place :D

I literally asked you to add me up on Epic so that I could show you what a private pre-made match looks like.

Sorry what?

Quote me where I said something otherwise and didn’t made it clear for the 1000x time that target iso like that can ruin games for new comers / crossplay randoms on pubs.

As for playing against good teams you can still do team wipes. But that will be combination of both luck and skill. Again. Im inviting you for privates games so that I could show it. Its up to u if you have balls do try it.

So you don’t know what anecdotal means so that’s hilarious. And you don’t get that shooters like this at there core are numbers games. Dps and health pools. So when proving a point of what’s strong or weak you can look at the numbers. Sooo why have I been talking to you about this all this time when you don’t understand simple fundamentals like these. I’m officially done now fuck I wasted so much time talking to a tardo fuckkkk

Target iso isn’t even close to being the deciding factor in what ruins the game for newcomers though. The lack of matchmaking is. A simple system based on win/loss ratio at minimum and it isn’t there.

A pred that has played pred is going to find you within the first few minutes.
A pred that hasn’t played pred is going to kill AI and ask how hes supposed to find the fireteam, just like it was at release.
You’re addressing an extremely minor symptom (spawn location) and not the problem. New players don’t even care about spawns they have no map knowlege.

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Target iso should be like assassins creed and it can point u in the direction instead of just showing u the location but it’ll stay the same for pigs… or just make the cool down really long

Riiiight. Just once again prove me right by replying to me after this.
It’s not like it’s been the first time lol

No. I totally don’t get what DPS is. You are beyond genius!

Oh oh - this has so much to do with the actual topic and in no way once again is a total dodge of the arguments. LOL

Which you didn’t even cared to provide in the first place and that has nothing to do with the actual topic to begin with.

It’s the first time you even talked about fundamentals, not to mention you youself admitted how you never have face a pre-made high lvl pc ft. LMFAO. You straight up playing pubs with randoms non stop. Talk about fundamentals xDDD

I totally agree on that. Matchmaking is #1 problem, balance comes 2nd. But target ISO is still adding up to that list of problems.

But not withing the first 10-15 seconds. Im sure you are a FT player (or atleast played quite a bit) to know that in those first minutes you can do a lot and get into save positioning on top of that.

As soon as people figure out they can just leap across the entire map instead of sprinting, target iso goes out the window. It’s useful for casual/low level preds because they’re bad at traversing the map and probably won’t find you otherwise until they figure out there’s only a few compounds.

Pub FT typically gets to the first mission which is fine, second compound if the pred is new. May or may not get intercepted at the first alarm, which is less in their favor than getting caught in the jungle because they’re slow at killing AI anyways. Pubs don’t really care about safe positioning they just follow whoever is sprinting ahead.