I, too, am just going to say it.

Yes, this is one of those posts. Yes, this post will not be liked as much as the “Praise Illfonic!” posts. Yes, I’m expecting the comments to be filled with “LUL, you played too much”, “LUL, adapt!” or other comments, but…

This last patch broke the game, and from a competitive aspect I no longer have fun.

How did I enjoy the game before the patch? Simple - I stream it quite often by queue’ing against ONLY PC players. I do this as both FT and Predator. These players are, quite simply, the best in the game and offer me the biggest challenge on either side. PS4 players are, and I say this with no offense, generally VERY bad at this game and can be toyed with at will.

I find nothing more enjoyable as the FT than being forced to strategize, communicate and out-position the Predator. As the Predator I loved the concept of fighting ‘PCDS’ or the Russians - the game is TOTALLY different and forces you to be on your toes at all times.

How is the game now with Patch 2.0? Well, as the FT I now have a button to press when entering a base to find all items, all AI and the Predator if he is near. The skill aspect of listening, looking and finding a Predator is gone… a simple button press does my job for me. So, now that I have spotted the Predator, with the SAW-Z and Yautja’s bane I am dealing 1/8 of the Predator’s health in a single shot. With the 2nd SMG I am dealing close to half. I can parry a Predator and ‘stun’ him for 1 second, allowing my allies to finish him. I have healing EVERYWHERE. I have ammo EVERYWHERE. Sure, the AI is brutal, but it’s nothing to a team, duo or trio who talks.

And, if all that fails and I die? The last guy becomes Superman and can bring me back with ALL of my equipment, ammo and health.

Well, as the Predator, all of this just sucks. Do you want to spend the first 2-3 minutes blowing up health? Too bad, the FT can complete their missions in UNDER FOUR MINUTES. (Not a joke.) Do you want to live the fantasy of being Predator while stalking them through the jungle, poking them with a bow and slowly picking them off? Nope - there are at least 6 medpacks around the map. This is NOT counting the amount of health packs they can carry depending on their class. So, with that much healing, the “best” way for you to play as a Predator is to try and hit hard and fast, with just enough survivability to endure their focus fire. Do you know why the Combi is the most spammed weapon? Because it is the CLOSEST FT WEAPON we have - the throw damages near instantly. None of the other weapons are exceptionally ‘good’, so the bow becomes the default due to it’s versatility.

Oh, and if that wasn’t enough, I have no way to replenish my items, if I lose my mask it’s a massive blow to my tracking, and if I get found eating a pig it’s impossible for me to stop the heal (Mind you, the FT has no limitation to pausing THEIR healing.)

So, what does this mean? Well, the natural answer would be to play Private matches with all the friends I have made… except the ping in these games is insanely high - close to 400 for many players.

The game has simply lost it’s competitive edge. I didn’t mind waiting in 20-40 minute queue’s - I’d simply play a game on Steam while I wait. But now as FT I go through games knowing it’ll be a stomp. If I get a win as Predator it feels like I just pulled off some sort of God-Tier victory with everything against me. I’ll keep playing, because there’s nothing like it out right now… but I am disappointed that this game is going the Evolve route and losing all of it’s competitive edge.

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I’m just gonna say it…Pc players need to stop acting like they are the master race… if so why are they lowering graphic quality and downloading hacks? I have a pc and PS4…players can suck on both ends. Jesus Christ grow up

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This.

They need to force objectives to take more time.

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Watch ANY of my streams. I am doing Epic+ graphics every single time. I have NEVER hacked, never cheated.

And if you’re going to sit here and tell me PS4 players are, on average, equal to PC players, then I have nothing more to say to you. It’s not an insult, it’s just simple fact that they tend to be much, much worse. Are there good ones? Sure. Very good ones. But on average they are significantly worse.

A mouse is easier to aim with. That’s not skill bro. It’s like saying people trying to saw a log by hand have no skill compared to the guy using a chain saw. It’s all in the tools man, not in skill. Sorry.

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Now you’ve shifted the argument since your position is no longer tenuable - I don’t give a flying **** if it is skill, cheats or hacks, PC players being ‘better’ by any argument means they are more enjoyable to play against at my skill level.

Again, not trying to sound arrogant, I am just simply much, much better than PS4 teams and it is insanely boring to play against them.

I’m having even more fun with this last patch…

so my prayers goes to you lol

Plus the UVA scanner is limited , so yeah is not a big deal

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You lost me at “ps4 are VERY bad players” who the fuck is this guy? The fucking oracle? Literally laughing out loud. Get the fuck outta here peasant.

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Play the game for a decent amount of time my friend, you’ll find PS4 players are generally MUCH worse than PC.

Yes probably most of them ps4 players are “bad” but not all…like me for example 😉

Plus! I counter awful pc FT too as well so yeah 🤷🏻‍♂️

I agree with what you said, but you kinda messed up when you wrote “ps4 players are very bad”.

I understand and agree, being on pc myself, with what your trying to say there, it is undeniable that the same person playing this game on pc vs playing it on ps4 is going to do significantly better on the first platform.
But you should pay attention with words because “ps4 are bad at the game” can come off as judgemental and interpreted to mean that it’s their fault

Im a ps4 player and ai have shit on 90% of pc players and pc premades I have come across they are usually cocky as fuck and will just stand still and take caster shots to the face because the wasd bs for movement makes them like snails. I have only faced a few decent pc squads and the only ones that are active here is @JelouGaming. Most pc players are in fact trash because they think because they have “God” aim they dont have to move. Pc players die just like the rest

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But he’s not wrong.
The outcome is the same.
Regardless of the reason, PS4 players are much easier to beat.

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Whatever I’m out of this useless thread…if u don’t like this patch well stop playing the game then…I’ll keep having fun 🤷🏻‍♂️

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If we’re talking about randoms then yes, PS FT are far worse then random PC FT.

I can agree with this Statement Ps randoms all seem to lack thumbs and a clearly all have the brain of a Monkey that has had half its head blown off and survived

Agree. This forum is worse than a COD thread. As someone who’s played since launch the community over the last two months filled with Basement dwellers. Not too mention 70% think they are gods gift to the game lol I’m sure illfonic gets a chuckle out of some of these posts 😂

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Well if you’re that fucking good, play on ps4 and see how you do.

If you end up sucking on ps4, it means youre trash and never good to begin with.
Cause if your really good, youl be good anywhere.

Lol.

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Sure there are a few basement dwellers here, but the recent new Accounts are the reason this forum has gone to shit. All these newbie accounts that all post game crash threads even tho there are 5 million of them are the reason this place has become hell

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I agree with a lot of the OP here, I think that one of the main things that needs to change, is the reinforcements coming back with full equipment, Its a bit much. Id also be fine with increasing the meds and ammo found in the world, with a nerf to charges on hand-held ammo and medkits, so players have to actually spend time looking for meds etc, and the pred can set traps around them or destroy them.

And finally yeah, missions need to be longer, some take some time, but some you can do in 3 mins which is stupid.

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