I don’t think the left-wing news networks were directly telling people to go loot and burn buildings. I agree some commentators were blasé about the destruction and too ready to make excuses for it or dismiss it, but there wasn’t a concerted and lengthy effort to distort reality and facts like there has been by the likes of Fox news for over 4 years.
I wonder what kind of day Yuppers is having?
Really? Cuz I clearly remember Chris Cuomo’s quote of “show me where it says protests must be peaceful” and I’d call that a lot more encouraging and inflammatory than anything said on Fox in the past 4 years.
The idea that news in and of itself has a partisan bias and opinion is scary enough. The fact that I don’t need one whole hand to count how many are conservative/right wing vs how many are left leaning (which i honestly can’t count that high thank you Philadelphia public schooling) also speaks volumes.
Tbh the media outrage and twitter drama ends. Average person wont know anything about politics Obama-style while we’re bombing kids & waterboarding in guantanamo until its time for the media to beat the drum of election war.
At random the media will activate them on some issue to shill some foreign policy.
A year before the next presidential election the media will drag the right wing boogieman costume out of the closet again. Every centrist will be demonized as a nazi again. Republicans and Dems probably be keeping outliers out at all costs now to maintain the integrity of their puppet show, think of what Hillary did to bernie.
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Makes sense
But so does striking while the iron is hot
Hope to God you’re right because I’ve got a sick feeling in my stomach the fuse is lit. The escalating bar of what’s acceptable reaction to political differences doesn’t go away overnight. The left riled up the Bernie crowd and just kept giving them free range to “resist”. Republicans just tried to jump in on the party and rightfully got held to task but…I somehow don’t see it defusing the situation, only escalating. You don’t put 4 years of tumultuous politics behind you with a call for “unity” after winning an election. You especially don’t do it in any way that makes one side feel like they’re pushed in a corner and censored.
They just direct the people elsewhere. Two unity and healings to the back of the head of whoevers presented as a facist dictator in the middle east. Remind them all that Israel is more important that the cops killing people. They’re probably just hoping everyone forgets and people pack up and go home.
I’d join this conversation but feel like the sheer number of false equivalencies make it pointless. There really isn’t any possible comparison between attacking the House of Representatives and a riot in Portland or some silliness in Seattle.
I was curious as to how Yuppers was going to explain away the lack of martial law he was so excited for.
More people died in the autonomous zones than the capitol selfie tour. Lawless zones and mass looting and the trashing of private businesses doesn’t affect the people up top like trespassing on the holy democratic temple does so who cares though. Maybe Canadian news doesn’t cover much aside from bad orange man.
That right there is the problem. You can’t conceptualize the othersides perceived injustice and how they reacted. The same time you can’t understand why they don’t see how it’s justified when you supported the cause.
Motive doesn’t matter and the ends do not justify the means. Destroying private businesses is far more devastating than destroying government buildings. People dying is inexcusable regardless the cause.
There were tragedies in Seattle, the autonomous zone was the silliness I was referring too. Yes it played a part in those tragedies, not solely responsible for them, anymore so than the murder of George Floyd.
I wonder want you think of Trump not carrying out any American traditions involving the transition or inauguration?
Never said it was. The comparison is false, regardless of an emotional appeal.
How?
The deaths in either case are tragic. The Capitol riots had an intent that goes beyond the riots earlier in the year. I don’t support either set of rioters, don’t make excuses for their criminal behaviour.
lol random discrepancy.
Yes and the woman shot in the neck had nothing to do with the protestors? The killings in the autonomous zones had nothing to do with the lack of police?
Not the precious sacred rituals. Anything but that!
Like setting up an autonomous zone? What do you think the intent there is exactly? Teehee they’re so silly. We take over blocks surrounding police stations all the time for funsies here. It’s like the local passtime totally not an attempt to overthrow or destabilize anything.
No they don’t. They’re literally the same thing. Bad actors abusing a peaceful demonstration protesting perceived injustices by the government on American Civil rights.
I think trump wanted to have groups in Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, but the elected officials there would not have it
Your position seems to be that I have to defend the riots in the summer, to criticize the riot at the capital, it simply isn’t true though. I think the loss of life and destruction of property, were tragic. They needlessly and contrary to the best way to be heard are black marks on both those who participated and those who encouraged them.
Agree to disagree.
Edit - that’s not very clear, so I’m gonna add something.
I support the right of those who came to the Capitol to hear the President and protest. I agree those who came to cause problems are separate or bad actors. The root cause and the place were the most blame lies is with those who lied to them. The President lied about fraud before the election and after. Those lies are the reason people came, for both reasons, to protest and to riot/have an insurrection.
You can say it wasn’t, that it’s being misrepresented by the media, but the rioters themselves are saying just that in court now. They said it on film while doing it. Some bad actors went so far as to visit and plan how to capture members of the government.
No my position, quite simply, is that the riots over the summer and the assault on the capitol are different only in motive. Yet have been treated very very differently by both politicians and the media. You’ve repeatedly said they aren’t comparable. I’ve simply defended my viewpoint by explaining the similarities.
You don’t have to condone or condemn either event. I just ask you to understand the similarities so that you can treat both the same.
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There’s 60+ million of white supremacists in this country?
Apparently
It is the picture being currently painted is it not?