That’s why I prefer balance that takes macros into account. For example, Battlefield 4 limited their semi auto pistols to about 450 to 500 rpm so their would not be any real DPS advantage to using a macro.
Is it OK to use macros in this game?
This punishes people that can actually aim and fire that efficently manually. Literally lowers the skill ceiling of any tapping in the game. You dont see Valorant nerfing semiautos for the sake of macros, they just ban you in the middle of the game because they have the money to do so.
Nobody is being punished. It’s just fair.
Turn crossplay off if you have an issue
It’s really that simple
Queue times won’t go up
PC playerbase is miniscule compared to playstation
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Also, if anybody was wondering, I was playing PHG with a friend that has a PlayStation 5, and confirmed that console players, weather PS4 or PS5, are all queued together, even with crossplay off.
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You sound like your boyfriend hasn’t been dickin you good this last week kekekekek
Look, casualization of semiautos is HITLER. But seriously I dont want to be regulated to the arthiritis people that cant handle tapping a key so they want the tapping rate lowered.
Makes guns shit that otherwise wouldnt be or they have to compensate by upping the damage
That’s exactly the right thing to do.
No it isnt look at the guardian in Valorant and the pistols in CS or seige. If they increased damage and lowered fire rate it would destroy balance everything might as well be single shot snipers or chambered
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Didn’t Valorant fail? I didn’t think anyone was playing that game anymore. At any rate, I don’t really like games like Counterstrike: GO or Valorant. Those are the kinds of games that PC players like to play. Battlefield, Call of Duty, Apex Legends, Titanfall, Overwatch, etc. are the good examples of how to attempt to balance games available on console.
People, just stop this already, for the 3 PC players that actually use them this is really a useless back and forward. The PC players are very few in this game, out of those very few, even fewer use macros since they only help with 1 damn pistol.
Seriously, this game has actual issues, like currently PS people getting disconected and crashes.
What’s new? Illfonic strikes again. They’re the living embodiment of shooting yourself in the foot.
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If 3 mil players a day on average is failing. Uh rapidfire hemlock, peacemaker, and autopilot inventory management? I only played apex at launch though but if they nerfed any of those above - thats a nerf to macros harming people that are manually that efficent in the intended vanilla game experience.
Overwatch has the money to detect macros and bans you for even having a macro to instantly lock characters. Blizzard is just like Riot and logs each keystroke to ban for it outside WoW where queuing skills is allowed. The rest I havent played or dont use semis in.
You’re conflating “supporting macros” with a game not having any kind of tapping-related mechanic
Jesus Fucking Christ man… I explained already this isn’t a macro. Is a bug. You can try it. All you have to do is throw a grenade and left click away. It only happens with nades (I even say that in the video). Video description clearly says BUG. I think I also reported on the bugs list
Now on the 3 grenades to your face… grenades are not impact activated. They are time activated. You can “cook” them by holding them down. If you got 3 nades to your face, that is the result of insane timing and synchronization by those players. I would not expect any less from them as they are among the best players we know of.
Macros only “help” with two things in this game… TWO THINGS… One pistol who has an insane firerate (and brutal recoil to compensate) and the netgun “mini-game” (which I have stated many times should be a standard animation like the bear trap)
But in all honesty… I wish devs come here and say macros are forbidden. I wish they put a timer on the netgun and limit the grimtech fire rate. I really do. Just to beat @FairYautja’s ass once again, solo in a pub, and see what mental gymnastics he comes up with to accuse players who beat him fair and square are cheaters, just because he can’t accept he ain’t that good
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Okay. So I’ll leave it at, balance weapons to assume macro/turbo will be used.
“Dont have actual semi-autos or any form of quick tapping in your game if you’re not Valve, Riot, or Blizzard logging keystrokes of every player in the game”
Ah yes otherwise scripts dictating game balance is fine
When I said “I am not sure if it was a macro or a bug exploit” I was refering at the 3 grenades in 1 second incident showing your video as proof that there is a grenade bug. So relax!
“But in all honesty… I wish devs come here and say macros are forbidden.”
- Yeah but its not just about the macros is it?
Because for me, using the mouse wheel to shoot like you showed in a video, also feels like exploiting something that the devs missed.
And I dont care if it gives more recoil, if the predator is in your face, you can’t miss no matter what the recoil is.
And in the video from @FairYautja, its 100% obvious that you are rolling the mouse wheel, if not using a macro.
The rate is just waaay above normal.
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Lets just be honest, the pistol is the only weapon people use macros on. Without it the pistol is trash. Believe me. Anyone who uses the pistol alone does so for esthetics. Its one of the most uselss weapons, and when you lobby with PS newbies who think its cool, just leave the match. Done deal, they will die.
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If it makes you feel better its not like they have the resources to stop it. Gun Media/Illfonic on reddit said discord and other 3rd party voice comms were forbidden for F13 but they can’t enforce it. Makes it kind of a pointless statement since people doing it dont care about the fairness of it to begin with
It doesnot make it better than any other SMG or assault. It just bumps it to that level or close to it.