Its time to speak about defuse

[Xan84]

That is not an argument oh and:

@Thunder-Cats

Or make it the entirety of the map so they cant tun away so certain players stop ruining stats for the game

[Elliott626]

Think pulling other people’s opinions into this, after seeing how you are processing this information, isn’t helping your case at all… lol

[Xan84]

@Elliott626

Think pulling other people’s opinions into this, after seeing how you are processing this information, isn’t helping your case at all… lol

And what is my “case”? Seriously curious. You guys seem to have a case of wanting to force people into disarming.

[KameofWar]

Just putting this here so people can see/ understand the arguement in short form since this thread is pretty lit right now make sure you read the post i am repling to here as well then read this post

@KameofWar

but we know from Oldkinghamlet that some of their balance changes does come from the data they collect and i can assume from other games they may not neccesarily look at the details of every single game individually unless there is specific problem they are trying to solve

@Elliott626

Looks like we are trying to now manipulate a game and it’s rules because people don’t agree with the rules or see it as “not important”

Looks like we have some bombs to diffuse to even the odds don’t we! Complaining about it hasn’t really gotten us too far.

so if players think that a rule is wrong cause it causes a perceived bad outcome in devlopment should we not voice our opinions about it?

@Elliott626

So… people are willing to take the L by blowing up Predator, not choose to do anything to change the way this data themselves are influencing, and expecting the devs to change the game accordingly.

Gotcha!

Again. To me makes no sense.

If you don’t agree with a game, especially a core portion of it, then don’t play it? Lmaoooo

[BadBlood]

They don’t defuse themselves or else this topic wouldn’t exist

Or they’re filthy Pred mains

[Elliott626]

Because it is a portion of the game a small portion people deem as not important, yet you can’t really speak for the ENTIRETY of the community, especially since the vast majority of the community isn’t maxed out.

Yall not want to diffuse? Play with eachother then and not diffuse the bomb in pubs.

Trying to change this game to fit yalls mold is hilarious to watch.

[Xan84]

If I get that right its effecting the devs logs? Then I guess they better rethink how they read those logs? Just consider how many times the predator is dead and FT alive and consider that a win for FT in the way they collect the data.

[KameofWar]

correct but they may not know it’s a problem is the issue as it’s the way they orginally designed the game albeit if they did this then the bomb doesn’t matter the moment the pred dies he should just leave same with the FT making the rest of the game past that point a waste of dev resources

which would be hard to swallow i imagine for the devs

[Elliott626]

Of course.

But to think the wider speed of players agree and to them get to “bend” the core way to play this game (surely yall are maxed out by now), is wild.

Not too much thought for other players tbh.

[Xan84]

@Elliott626

Because it is a portion of the game people deem as not important, yet you can’t really speak for the ENTIRETY of the community, especially since the vast majority of the community isn’t maxed out.

Yall not want to diffuse? Play with eachother then and not diffuse the bomb in pubs.

Trying to change this game to fit yalls mold is hilarious to watch.

I don’t speak for anyone but myself when I tell you its my business if I disarm or not. If other people want or need to disarm I am not stopping them. I can start inserting here a long list if you don’t want to do X play only with your friends but that would be absurd.

What is hilarious is people like you wanting to force other people to do something YOU want them to do. I am not trying to change this game at all, I just don’t disarm.

[Eshtion]

@Elliott626

My question, if you’re max level and playing a portion of the game isn’t seen as “important”, why even bother playing the entire game at all?

Okay.

Hey how’d you like the pre patch the shadow wars?

Or poorly designed optional bosses of the KH series? Particular BBS where you had to fight every optional boss 3 times? While having to deal with limited IFrames with Terra against a boss that can hit you at any time very fast?

Those sure we’re fun weren’t they?

Or what about finding all the monster nests and small various collectables in the Witcher 3?

Because everything In a game is exactly the same quality as each other amirite.

[Xan84]

@KameofWar

correct but they may not know it’s a problem is the issue as it’s the way they orginally designed the game albeit if they did this then the bomb doesn’t matter the moment the pred dies he should just leave same with the FT making the rest of the game past that point a waste of dev resources

which would be hard to swallow i imagine for the devs

This is not my fault or the people who don’t disarm. Its up to the devs to make something interesting and people wanting to do it because they want to and LIKE to.

[Elliott626]

I can dissarm the bomb, what about the other players that can’t do it?

Since yall run away all the time, how is anyone supposed to learn how to do it

Everyone’s running away from it “to save time” and no one is actually thinking of the wider goal of working together as a team…

[KameofWar]

that is true but it is up to the players in the modern online game to tell the devs the symptoms of a problem so the devs can be the doctor and find the right remedy for the disease they are describing

[Xan84]

@Elliott626

I can dissarm the bomb, what about the other players that can’t do it?

Since yall run away all the time, how is anyone supposed to learn how to do it

Everyone’s running away from it “to save time” and no one isnactually thinking of the wider goal of working together as a team…

And how is it my problem that other people can’t do it and they just as well run away? Why should I stay there and do it for them?

There is no working together as a team to disarm the bomb. 1 individual can do it, if someone is interested in it, the only way to learn it is to do it. All it takes 1 individual so he can’t blame me for not helping.

[Xan84]

@KameofWar

that is true but it is up to the players in the modern online game to tell the devs the symptoms of a problem so the devs can be the doctor and find the right remedy for the disease they are describing

Aha, like the countless bugs in the game still existing today from launch? I got stuck in objects 3 times today and had to jump and crouch for like 20 seconds or so to get out. I’ve also posted a bug that has existed for a long time.

[Eshtion]

Hang wait a minute where does it say a defuse is a win?

[Eshtion]

Extras fireteam gameplay right?

[KameofWar]

Extras> predator

[Elliott626]

Yep.

Ft must finish mission or collect body for owlf.

Wonder who actually read that section xD

Everyone be out here playing their own version of the game when the rules are there in plain sight xD