Jelou and Beer's cheat trainers exposed and how to install it

I am simply pointing about hypocrisy, that’s all.

He had a loadout bug, he didn’t do it intentionally

Also, whatever is considered cheat or abnormal should be considered with game balance or game flow in mind, for this case all that currency does craftsman no good in gameplay

This is two different majorly reoccurring standings with other people is something that I’ve seen over the years and I don’t think it’s something new so they probably have actual names for these 2 type of takes

It doesn’t matter, if things that you, me or him do in CS it’s still bannable offense, even macros are bannable, ofc this is PHG, but it’s all same. Whether gameplay advantage or cosmetics. So it’s considered a cheat.

It’s not really enforced though and bottom line is that public games in 2024 are no holds barred with the only hope is that people are nice in private games pretty much, the stance of cheating is cheating is both justified and illogical at the same time but if the company reprimanded or patched these things it would make more sense to follow but that’s not what we have sadly

How exactly? What he does is also considered cheating… even if accidental…
CS has it very much enforced. Or it’s simply not cheating when you do it, but only cheating when I do it?

Pretty much what I said is relative to PHG and each specific abnormality

Sometimes these abnormalities and exploits or glitches although give a technical advantage also conflict with fundamentals that have been pushed by players who understand the game very well mechanically

For example Grimtech19 + rapid fire, although this visually fucked and can melt predators people who understand this game know melee does not work and you shouldn’t even come close to fireteam unless you want to trade damage for damage

Another example is a different situation is something that people do by accident which is triple or double knife unintentionally and or offhand reload where a fireteam will reload 2 weapons at the same time, they don’t know they’re doing it and there was a bug at launch for predator in the regard which was later patched where predators would wrist blade rapidly 3 times in a row and down fireteams

Speedhack is not though and on epic you can push values and you even on steam have been using Jelou’s CT’s? Illfonic hasn’t banned anyone, only rumor I’ve heard was a VAC ban triggered by EAC

Honestly I still laugh when cheating is brought up, simply because for the first 3 years of this game the community got bent out of shape of such minor shit but now since 300 magazine, speedhack, Jelou CTs, astons aimbot, astons esp and fucked player controller findings I’d say those are the real cheats in the game, the crazy shit even though small shit like wrong spec and battle axe are considered cheating it should make anyone yawn at this point

But basically tldr ^

Grimtech19 + Rapid fire ≠ ESP
Triple knife ≠ Aimbot
Instant mud up ≠ speedhack

Maybe this makes more sense

And I don’t see anything that is illoglical from my standpoint in that argument. So it’s still cheating.

In CS both in Epic and Steam and especially speed hack, it instantly kicks you and bans you from the online. So you are making stuff up. CS is most strict FPS game and EAC is not only trigger, but developers watching replay from your POV. So keep imagining stuff.

OK, whatever, I definitely didn’t bring it up. Craftsman brought it up.

No, I’m just saying it’s justified but it also comes with extra things to consider

I’m more or less just trying to show people there is additional information

What to consider? Details are not important if they are cheating, justifiable or not. In PHG everything is justifiable, in CS nothing is justifiable.

That’s not what I do though, I try to process as many variables as possible, justifiable or not it is my process rooted from bug testing itself

That’s fine if there is a different opinion, at the end of the day I’m just a tester collecting information

You switched topic completely and main point that I reffered to Craftsman who is telling me to stop cheating stop cheating, etc…

whoops

If you meant CS as in CSGO I figured you miss typed CT or CE

Yes, but now it’s been turned into CS 2, GO no longer exists.

Where’s my hypocrisy? If you have a bug with the in-game currency, that you will receive 100,000,000 veritania for 1 match, then you can be considered a cheater?
Once again, this bug happened on a live stream. I went to this forum, created a post that such a bug happened, described the situation, gave a link to the time code and attached a screenshot, and also mentioned the developers. But none of them commented on this.
Also, in addition to the currency, I had a level of about 870+, after the match I received an increase of 999 at once, it all happened in one moment.

I looked at my ban list, there are 5 people there, 3 were cheating on Discord, faking someone else’s account page, 2 were people who insulted other players. I also have a ban list on my server, there are already more players there. are you on the ban list on the server?

That’s right, it’s still cheating in every other FPS games, if it’s accidental it’s very likely to be patched, but not bannable, since it’s accidental exploit, but if it’s purposeful then you would still get ban in other FPS games. Just like me.

Yes I am. But I don’t care of course.

Dude, I stream this game every day, I’m not interested in playing with cheats, it kills interest in the game.I once played without shadows, I was accused of cheating, because without shadows I had an advantage. I play on high graphics settings so that no one tells me about the “advantages” 😅

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OK what is your point again? Your interests are not same as my interests nor your fun is not same as my fun.