Just found out some Shit about the Alpha class

Not sure if its a Place holder or not but incase its not i wanted too adress this as this would make alot of people mad but, form my PS4 friend that some how glitched the game to get his Alpha predator class, he told me that the stats are the same as the hunter. just in case this isnt a place holder and this is intended

if they drop another 10$ DLC and we can a Skin for the hunter class and the warclub ima be pissed.

the fire team got Dutch witch wasnt just a skin he had the benefits of assault support and Recon. in one class the Health of Support with the Movement speed/perks of Recon with the Hip fire of assault.

so if they drop an skin for the predator that doesnt do anything along the same lines and is just a skin, i’ll uninstall epic. Im Dead serious. your giving pay to win options too the fire team but no love to the predator just skins? i would no joke walk form this game so fast man. im already pissed that the new sickle is the same as the Warclub both in Damage per attack and Per second. so if the class it self is just 87 predator only as an Alpha predator i’ll be done.

Whats your guys thoughts on this News? would you be ok with the devs just Re-selling you something thats in the game already calling it a class while giving you No real reason to pick said class aside form it looks good?

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Dutch is a tweaked assault. He’s got a bit of extra speed and health, the mud duration instead of extra damage, and lost gear space.

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i was just about to ask.

Well, here’s the thing. People were complaining that Jungle Hunter was a different class than Regular Hunter, even if their stats looked the same. Now they’re equal and it appears as though Alpha might be as such. I’m sure they might re-tweak the Additional Classes along the way with more transparency.

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yes how ever its still its own class Dutch as a Reason to be picked Over assault or Support or recon and over Scout. but if the alpha predator is just the hunter predator with NO reason to be picked over any of the other classes im telling you i wont pay for that dlc nor will i support this game anymore. you cant give a “pay to win” option to the fire team ( just to be clear here im not saying that Dutch is op but i am saying that he is Different form the others and has his reasons to be picked) and if the Predator doesnt get the same level of treatment then i ask you where does that end?

if we tell our selfs its ok with Soft pay to win for Fire team and Nothing for the predator then they’ll slowly make it worse and worse and worse intell its Full blown pay to win as the fire team and the predator still doesnt get anything i would rather them give BOTH sides the same level of Pay to win ( not saying i want pay to win in this game but if your going to have it) then make both sides have the same deal. other wise look at what happen with Dead by daylight No joke the biggest meme you’ll hear form players in that game is “its a surivior sided game and its fair” ( just to make my point i dont mean to talk shit about Dbd) i can count on one hand how many game changing perks the killer has in that game, then theres the suriviors with a library of Perks that are game changing.

Too sum it up i dont want the blance of this game to be swayed too far too one side and giving only the fire team interesting classes. your going to make it Fireteam sided.

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This is grave news if true. Hopefully will be between a (H)unter and (S)cout.

Stamina(S) + good energy regain(S) + good health(H) + good melee(H)…something like that, i dunno.

No dude, Jungle Hunter wasn’t different, he was literally worse than the Hunter Predator, that’s why people complained.

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Honestly anything that makes his class its own is all i want to hear and see.

if its the same as the Hunter or any class that we already have its going to make alot of people mad and there sales wont do as good as Dutch.

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Iirc, there was some other benefit that Jungle Hunter had? If I’m mistaken then I suppose that explains a lot.

No it just had energy that drained twice as fast.

To OP though im not sure how much they can shake up pred classes without screwing the balance.
For sure though they should get different stances, cloak animations, weapon skins etc if its going to be purely cosmetic.
If it has to effect gameplay, larger charge time for ranged weapons but slightly faster melee swings or something.

Anything huge like having a scout with hunter or zerks hp pool is no good unless it’s going to have drawbacks. Kind of drift into pay2win territory.

see tho if they dont do what they did too dutch and all there doing now for predator is Purely comsmetic dlc’s for the predator i wont be supporting this game not when i can just go play something else.

the fire team as of this moment can pay to have both the Old grenade launcher back Plus having An assault rifle thats pretty much the AUG but sounds and looks way cooler as the same weapon slot and you can pay money to unlock Dutch witch gives you like the prefect blend of support recon and assault as one character.

as of this moment it is pay to win as the fire team all be it small and soft form of it. its still pay to win.

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Maybe they had to do this game as Moba

To tell you guys the truth, I would rather have new armors, weapons and cosmetics when a “Legacy Predator” is released, and a sub-division between the classes that you can select and pick your “Legacy Predator” or stick with your own Predator.

I fear that if we get too many Predators, the whole meaning of having classes could be useless, and we could end up losing the opportunity to create our own Predators.

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i feel for you man, i really do but with what they did with dutch thats un-avoidabble now its a Catch 22 right now, if they dont add meaning to each class then its un fair for the predator and if they do add meaning to it theres no real reason to make your own predator. they shouldve just made Dutch a Skin and keep the Rifle the same, then just add weapons for the predator

They released a character/weapon that’s on par with the strongest things in the game support+lmg which is kind of the expectation. So not quite pay2win, just an alterative. If they released a fireteam dlc with the lowest hp in the game and a terrible smg there would be no point in buying it. Dutch invalidates a lot of the fireteam classes/weapons but so does a support with the light machine gun.

Predator is still getting weapon releases no doubt. But as for directly mixing and matching health stats with speed on pred? Tough call because it’s easy to invalidate a lot of the other classes. Fireteam does a lot of mixing and matching by default because weapons aren’t class locked.

the Rifle it self is on par with the LMG but your leaving out the Launcher thats like saying the Dubble slam exploit isnt op at all the slam only Deals 95 damage that cant kill you whats the problem? your leaving out half the issue thats an un fair argument.

Already is fireteam sided. For the most part anyway.

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Yeah, I think this is what should had been, but now I also belive classes will lose it’s meaning and it will now be “what Predator should I pick” instead of “what class of Predator should I pick”.

We will have to wait and see when Dutch goes free.

If it is “OP” then they have two choices.

  1. Nerf him now that he is free.

  2. Leave him as is and introduce an equally “OP” Predator.

Both are lightweight pay to win, just a slightly different flavor. Both generate money by encouraging folks to always by the new “thing” because it will be OP. Either temporarily or by power creep.

I hope neither happens. I am not okay with either of those practices in free to play games. I will certainly not stick around if it happens in a game I paid for.

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See i would love to agree with you on this point too only tho Dutch already Invalidates assault and recon now. Support still has a bit more health and has alot more gear so you can say thats a reason to pick it and scout is still faster so you can say that but recon and assault? he has like 3 gear points less then assault and i cant remember if its the same or not for the recon but i bet its close. the perk points is high enough to use what you want on your class so i mean Dutch already makes half the Classes point less. so its pay to win there.

why choose between assault or Recon when you can be both?

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