Just found out some Shit about the Alpha class

To be fair its ridiculous one person can drop a zerk in 4 seconds hipfiring a few headshots. Imagine 4 people with half a braincell

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Dutch is absolutely not that OP he has 10 extra health than assault, and less gear. The hammerhead is definitely not OP. The LMG is way better than any other weapon in the game. Plain and simple

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The ft classes should be restricted on weapon loadoutsā€¦ just like cod/ rainbow 6/ etc

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The LMG is definitely better Iā€™ll give you that. But to be fair, for all I know that beserker couldā€™ve been low on health already. I canā€™t say because I havenā€™t used it in a long time so Iā€™ll give it a try. But excluding that what else could really top the hammerhead? Either way it still gives you an advantage, you can buy it so itā€™s somewhat pay to win.

I was intending on commenting on the ā€œis Alpha Predator pay to winā€ theme and how the current implementation of Dutch could be used as a basis to build some theories.

In the video, I do not see any AI around, and I think I was hit by the grenade launcher of the Dutch I was fighting point blank. At least that is what I see. This is why I put the video up, I could be seeing something wrong or missing something.

Sorry if it not obvious.
First screen is before taking the hit. Second is after taking the hit. Video is to fill in the gaps between for evaluation. As far as I can tell, the only hit I took during that time was the point blank Dutch-Nade.

So my health difference between the two screen shots would show its damage to a Scout.

Duh

As a Pred main, I could care less what weapons the FT bring. Anyone dumb enough to try and face tank a full fireteam that is keeping LOS with each other and staying far enough away to negate a slam, gets what they deserve. Preds should play patiently, and observe the team and wait for the moment to pick off an FT. Just removing one FT sways the balance to the Pred in almost every game.

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I canā€™t say for the alpha pred, but weirdly the '87 hunter has the same stats as the hunter class. But in fact the '87 pred has more energy reserve anywayā€¦ are those hidden stats or just a bug ? IDK

Thereā€™s still only 3 relevant guns and no AR is on that list. Itā€™s not even 4th best Iā€™d give that to the 50cal or the 2xl.

This.
Finally someone who understands and knows.

Try it and enjoy downing anyone who goes for a quick claim by yourself. Itā€™s like 2-3k damage every game lmao.

Itā€™s not an advantage if thereā€™s already a better gun.

Are they different? I know the 87 was bugged and had too much energy consumption, but I thought this was normalized now and the stats were identical to regular Hunter?

50 cal is still bootycheeks too difficult to pull off to be meta. Itā€™s only truly meta if the most braindead squad can pull it off efficiently IMO like hipfiring an lmg.

So if they were to Dutch-ify Alpyha Predator, he would need ~Hunter health, ~Scout speed, and a new unique weapon?

Sorry if it is felt I was derailing, just trying to use empirical evidence to help theory craft what the Alpha Predator may be, and what the revenue stream plan is for this game.

oh no too these people hunter is already dutch-ifyd

I think we are using the word meta differently. Weapon tier list: Bolt, LMG, Vector, all other shit. I aint basing my meta on console aim

The Z-06/UMP with extended mag is a beast as a secondary weapon. That weapon does more damage to a Pred than any Assault Rifle in the game.

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Ok so this was a mistake, I was wondering if it was intended or not. Thx for clarifying this !

Thought we meant meta as in what everyone should be eventually flocking to for ez wins.

Take the bolt off the list then and just have a 2 weapon slot meta. LMAO

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