Just found out some Shit about the Alpha class

But why stop there Scout is as good as the Zerker in health because too these people 15% more health is nothing to them so whats 40 to them right? and if not, go ahead tell me a number where it goes form not much to alot wheres that marker? 15% is nothing how about 20%? or 25%? wheres that point of no return?

You crossed it about 4 posts back I think.

Ability to tank a headshot is what’s most relevant. Once someone goes down everyone has to play around that downed person.

Maybe Alpha Predator will have a super strong mask instead of a unique weapon then? ^^

I think current mask is ~5 points of damage resistance to a head shot. My notes suck so I could be off.

no too these guys? i think i crossed it when i posted the thread and pointed out Dutch is in fact Different form the other classes and you cant get dutch unless you pay for him and the term pay to win Refers to paying to get gameplay changing effect. witch i think dutch fits as well playing dutch is his on class wouldnt you say? and is it ture that he has is Own set of gives and takes? so there for it fits.

ergo pay to win.

and saying that too this guys is like droping a match on an oil drum. all they wanna do is spread hate, why debate something when you can hate on the guy instead of bringing up some good points.

Agreed

Pay to win is not the same as pay for different (game changing) to be fair.

Is the verdict still out on Dutch OP or not? I have not noticed anything really outstanding, but I play public matches so maybe the comp scene has weighed in?

It’s not “paying to get a gameplay changing effect” I thought we were talking pay2win which should be exactly what it implies? The indisputable strongest gun on the strongest character with no contest.

For the Predator you mean? well yes and no as the Ranged weapons arnt that bad for the preadtor i would disagree? you can hide your head pretty well and give the fireteam close to no time to hit it if you know what your doing. so eh? but where i sorta agree is if your meleeing the fireteam you cant hide your head so yea? i dont know i feel if the fireteam couldnt heal as much or rez as much it would be ok you wouldnt worry about your health so much if they can just undo your work over and over so but thats just my thoughts.

As long as it fits in and is not meta/top/needed/required then it is not pay to win really.

And by fit in I would mean there are reasons to choose it over other options, depending on your play style.

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woah what? with what? you agreed with me after all that? really? smells like a trap image

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Dude that line is golden 😂
I agree to this:

Instead of understanding the situation, I kinda targeted you for not having the same opinion as mine.
It’s good that we have different ideas and visions about something. It’s constructive and might apply some good criticism at one point or another.
To be honest with you, I said my opinion earlier about Dutch and his gun. This is how I feel about them right now. I’m sorry if you’re having different experiences with it but at least I hope that in the end you’re having fun.

Now to answer to you’re Alpha Predator post:
I believe that by it’s looks (and maybe lore?) it is going to be a hybrid between Scout and Hunter (just like how Dutch is 25% support and 75% assault or something like that). Like, I mean, if it’s gonna be a class and we all hope it’s not just gonna be a skin, it will be a hybrid for sure. Although I hope that that sickle gets new animations because the war club is going to lose it’s charm for sure.
(p.s had some shitty days recently and I’m kinda being a bit more aggressive…than usual😂)

I hope this comes it up for you and the rest of us here.
Cheers,mate.

yea it is? it changes the game by adding the first Duel purpose weapon in the game. how is that not game changing to you?

no but really with what?

Sammy, I really dont see dutch as pay to win, or anything crazy. Sure, the noob tube hurts, but I’ve had more ppl hurt themselves with it than me.

If they did something with alpha pred, like they did with dutch, I wouldnt care honestly.
Dutch having such low gear points makes him risky to use. I literally bought it to test something stupid out, and I can tell you, I’d rather play recon over dutch.

But honestly, if alpha pred was a new class, what would it even be?

The only thing I can think of I would want is a hunter with scouts stamina.

But even then, thats not anything I can get excited about. Like I cant think of any new type of predator class idea I would want.

Unless, it has a completely different arsenal.
Something to replace shoulder cannon and wrist blades but still be just as good or slightly better.

But if they did that, it would make more sense to just let us fully customize our preds exactly how we want.

As for me, I think dutch is just a nice fan service thing, like, woo hoo I’m dutch GET TO DA CHOPPA. But not a super class.

So that being the case, I really wouldnt mind if alpha pred was just a skin.

HOWEVER, sickle needs to be it’s own weapon.
Faster than the club.
If it’s just a reskinned club, that would bother me.

Anyway sorry for the book I wrote here, these are just my thoughts.

come on man… lol lets be real here, i love ya you know that ( again no homo) but how many times would you honestly say you use the med kit NOT THE NEEDLES THE MED KIT lol is it REALLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYY that needed? come on.

I edited my comment before I saw you’re question.

This IMO would be way better than blatant health/mobility adjustments. All that stuff on the screen you currently can’t swap out at match start.

Wrist computer, wrist blades, plasma caster, thermal vision, cloak.
All of these would be cool to adjust and still vastly change playstyles w/ different tradeoffs.
Let’s get a pred that can’t tag targets in thermal but has a different method of tracking. Let’s get a pred with no wrist computer to self destruct but some other bonus or mechanic on death Etc

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Having less gear is more fun for me because:

    1. It’s a challenge.
    1. Makes you change you’re playing style.
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Agreed