Upon further testing, really trying to see if melee can be viable without traps, and using good timing with strikes and what not, answer is still no. Lol. Was able to get 2 of them, but the burst damage is absolutely busted with knives. I attacked the final 2 ambush style with combi stick at full health, they proceeded to drop my health in about 3 seconds flat. It’s hard to tell when you are safe or not when doing melee combat because the burst damage is sooooo egregious with the knives. I lf parrying is going to be a thing (it should be) then knives need to do less damage period. It essentially makes an entire play style of the predator completely unviable. Is this anything new?? No. I’ve been aware since launch. And I’ve killed a full health pred alone with the knife so I’m fully aware it’s busted. But I figured now with all my experience I’d see if it can work, and the answer is, against a half way competent team, no. Lol
Knives still busted
Yeah, parrying is fine where it is but knife damage is broken. It still takes down predators very easily, had one game where the whole Ft ran at me with knives while I had my melee build of the elder sword and combistick. Let’s just say they took turns eating the whole combistick and I claimed 7
Well landed predator melee hurts like hell too, it takes 2 to 4 less then knives depending on heavy or light attack, melee is up close and personal and as such should be risk/reward. I have lost more knife fights with a predator then I have won. That being said they still need to work on hit tracking for the pred melee with a wrist blade since out of all the melee it does the most and perhaps then the knife part is a thing of the past idk but I feel the balance would best be served by working on the Predator instead of altering the knife since I have heard it said a lot that pred melee tracks like hot trash
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. There should be no loadout in which the knife can deal 100% damage in less hits than the predator’s wristblades.
As a Fireteam main but huge fan of the Predator, it’s painful to see a Predator get owned so easily. Knife damage is fucking ridiculous, the stamina drains to the Predator player are harsh compared to FT which even when there is no stamina left it doesn’t hinder me except for sprinting, and it’s too easy to lock a Predator player in melee, keep parrying knowing the rest of the squad are about to not only second wind the Predator but chase it down and catch it healing.
Honestly, I hope they fix this bullshit ASAP because when I occasionally play as Predator knowing what I know from FT perspectives melee is just not something I want to even consider unless it’s against a single player and I know there’s no chance of getting lynched by the rest of the squad.
as zerk the knives don’t do much…netgun and combi makes it possible to completely own a ft. At the same time its mostly potatoes.
Yeah they need to be bad, and then also you need to net them and hope they don’t know the counter play to the net. You shouldn’t need to bring a whole weapon just to be allowed to attempt to use another lol
true… but a lot of them go only 2 on the roof so it makes it possible.
Theres that mission where you gotta break into some buildings… I literally wacked the locks off with one slash of my knife… funny, but no… not acceptable.
If you have Yautja’s bane and heavy hitter, you’re giving up: 6th sense, dexterous, gearhead, thick skin, double time, quick release, and/or weapons training. Even with scout or recon, the only other good third perk would be thick skin otherwise you’d be too squishy.
I’m confused as to why anyone thinks the predator should be able to jump into a sustained melee battle vs multiple skilled soldiers and come out on top. Melee is for high dps during a surprise attack, then getting the hell out of danger.
FYI, if you begin a fight with slam, you’re only about two more hits from knocking a FT down, or one vs a scout or recon without thick skin.
Ah, but you said multiple. And with parry, that changes everything, meaning even a 2v1 ends with you in second wind and them with minimal damage. And while parry needs to be reworked to allow predator melee to be a usable option while stopping melee rushes, with the parry being so powerful, the knife damage shouldn’t be.
The best knife loadout vs the most fragile predator.
The weakest predator with the weakest melee weapon vs the tankiest fireteam.
To put that in numbers, any predator using any melee should be able to deal 192 damage in less hits than any fireteam member with a knife can deal 1000.
That would make Berzerkers and samurai totally broken.
Scout predators should mainly use range or net guns. The game makes that explicitly clear in the character description.
Yeah. You shouldn’t be engaging in sustained melee battles with more than one FT member. Contrary to what you’re saying, the combistick already has more range than the FT can parry and can hit multiple enemies with one swing, so that would be what you’re looking for.
Broken? Its only broken if you’re only goal is to knife the predator to death. And even then, if everyone hits the zerker one more time with the knife, he’s just as winded as the scout.
Again. The predator shouldn’t be able to engage multiple competent fireteam members with melee and wipe them out. So there’s nothing to adjust there.
If we went by your suggestion, vs a berserker or Samari, it would take 11 knife hits with the strongest knife perks, and it would take 14 hits with the knife on a typical FT build to get second wind.
…and? That does sound more reasonable. Unless you are one of those knife only people, in which case, too bad.
Actually, considering it takes 11 first hits with the scout using combistick, it will be more than that, and that is fine. Give me one reason why the high tech super strong alien race is weaker than one human with a piece of steel?
I suggest nerfing the knife, but if you want to buff all of pred melee, that’s fine to, just make sure the pred melee is better than FT melee.
Not sure why you are confused as to why the predator should be able to melee 2 people at once and win… we’ve seen the predator fight hand to hand with wayyyy worse odds and dominate. Now yes, this is a game, so I’m ok with it being more balanced, but the point is, I’m not saying you have to dominate, but you should not be dominated. Lol if you try and just melee, JUST use melee, you will be shredded in seconds by knives. If you get sprayed down that’s one thing. But Straight up the melee damage from ft Is wayyyy too fat rn
Yeah you should have to shoot him not knife him. Knives should be last resort/parrying option. And do damage yes, but not more damage than the 50. Cal. Because duh?? In my humble opinion landing on the last two guys alive with full health, and they whip there knives out, should not be the meta of this game. 2v1 knives vs the predator should not be easy much less a guaranteed win
didn’t the guy who tried to fight the Predator with a knife in the movie die instantly? Knife is broken, beyond the point of reason.
The way I see it a 1v1 with a Predator should very rarely be won maybe 3/10 or 4/10 right now it is almost a 7/10 or 8/10 if the FT member is good. The knife dmg is entirely broken.
Im convinced the FT melee damage does more than predator’s.