It’s more consistent as they can’t be parried like the predator can be, so yes.
Knives still busted
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Well, I’ve made my point. All I can do now is hope that the devs know better than to nerf fireteam melee.
Remember, predators need fireteams. Fireteams could go play any other FPS. If the fireteam feels too weak, the hand
The ft is so far from too weak lol. I’m not saying nerf them, I want certain weapons buffed (aa12) but the melee damage is literally a joke. Like insanely high
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I’m going to share a secret with you, okay. If the devs nerf the knife so its worse than the space alien’s murder weapons, there’s something else you can do. Look at your loadout, see these things labeled Primary and Secondary. You select those in the match and shoot the predator. No need for a high damage knife for that.
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How good is the predator melee damage? The FT melee damage needs to be up to par. How many times do you see predators getting globaled in melee by FT? Now how many times do you see predator doing this to the FT? The times I’ve seen people defeat the predator in melee is rare, the numbers of time I’ve seen the predators absolutely destroy people in melee is extremely high. So let’s not look at who is doing what. I don’t think I have 1 game (I play random) where 1-2 people don’t get killed in melee by the predator in 2-3 seconds.
alien race that travels the universe fighting the best creatures it can find with tech and composite metals that do not exist on earth vs 4 spec ops guys with normal equipment…
Yeah I can see why you think they should be equal 1v1
The whole point is you don’t get into a melee situation in these circumstances if it can be avoided and if you do get the fuck out as fast as you can while you’re still breathing.
FT should not be able to 1v1 any pred class in melee.
And with parry as it is right now, I’d rather the pred came up close for some melee action. That’s just broken.
The whole 4v1 concept implies that 4 are equal to 1.
Not that each individual of the 4 man team is equal to the one individual on the opposing team. That would be extremely unbalanced.
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Balance and gameplay comes first. Its irrelevant what he is, what tools he has. If you nerf the knife, you need to buff the FT some other way or nerf the predator.
Nobody wants to play as fodder. I am already seeing so many people who can’t even parry right.
The predator is far faster then the FT, can leap like the hulk, has enhanced vision and cloak but you’re supposed to avoid melee. Yeah, right.
Pred is not supposed to smash attack button and win. If somebody is getting you parried in melee and killing you, then you raise that combistick and throw it at his face or switch to a ranged weapon. The predator is a hunter, supposed to chip at the FT health and attack when the FT is not ready to parry and knife you down.
The predator has other ways of tipping the balance. This does not mean the predator can do everything better then the FT because “MAH SPACE ALIEN!” or nobody is going to keep quing as the FT.
Parry exists (with the stun included), for a quick FT to be able to avoid dying and open a window for the rest of his/her team to open fire while the pred is temp stunned.
It should not enable an FT to 1v1 a pred in hand to hand combat with ease.
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If you lose in a 1vs1 then the skill gap between the pred and the FT is massive. Now if you insist on winning the 1v1 fight with only melee as you stand there trading punches with the ft (as he can also regenerate on the spot) then the predator is the noob that refuses to use his entire kit to win that fight.
You are ignoring the point that a 1v1 melee fight in this situation should not be piss easy for the FT member. Which it is at this point.
Please explain how you consider the predator to be weaker (no matter which class), against any human carrying a knife?
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Piss easy? Do we play the same game? The number of times predators just drop in and melee kill people from 100% to 0 is insane, like I see it almost every game. The number of times I’ve seen people kill predators in melee only its probably something I can count on 1 hand. That is NOT easy or EVERYBODY would be doing it.
The predator is not weaker against any FT using a knife. If you really can’t win a 1v1 fight with the multiple tools you have as a pred, just use net and then you can freely smash your face on the KB as the FT can’t do anything to stop you.
1v1 melee, it means no tools…
Just melee weapon vs knife.
And if you haven’t seen it you must be new.
I’ve seen it very rare since the vast majority of predators are not noobs. You keep insisting something needs nerfing because you can’t just smash 1 button to win ignoring the tools that can be used to win that fight. I also want to win games with a pistol against a predator that uses his plasma cannon, if I can’t win, THEN NERF IT DOWN TO SHIT! Why should I do anything else but stand there, trade shoots with the pred and lose?
Let me guess, you’re one of those zerkers running in with a combistick right? Next time try throwing it and then follow it with more melee. See what happens.
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Try and keep logic and civility part of this…
If you must know when I play pred I play hunter with bow, net caster, healing kit, motion detecor, audio decoy, impenetrable, down range & observant.
If you actually took the time to read what I wrote, I was talking about me as FT against preds…
Parry needs to be nerfed.
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I am quite civil and if something contradicts your opinion than that does not mean its not logical.
If parry get’s any more nerfs you’re going to have to nerf the damage the predator does in melee to the ground. That is the ONLY counter to predators jumping in, smashing 1 button and killing the ENTIRE TEAM with NO difficulty. You want to buff a braindead play style. A play style that already destroys 60% of people I run into when playing randoms.
If melee is such a problem for you try net gun. I bet even if that is what you’re running, you’re still fully dependent on melee to kill people. The number of times I’ve seen the excuse of "I say this from FT point of view since I own predators) on this forums…
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The only counter to preds jumping in and wiping your entire team, is co-ordination…
And generally I prefer to just pick them off with the bow to be honest.
Down one, wait for the next idiot to try and rez him. Down the idiot.
Shoot the barrel next to them, watch it explode as the the third guy comes to the party (barrel kills the first two guys). Drop another arrow in the third guy.
Go to the reinforce point and then do it all again.
So you want to be left only with 4 man pc predamdes running around? The randoms can all quit right? How is that predator que going, now imagine with no randoms.
Being co-ordinated has nothing to do with being premade.
Shit you can play well as FT without comms and with randoms if people know what they are doing.
a) Maintain line of sight to each other.
b) Keep a max range of 15m
c) do not stand on top of each other
d) Keep muddied refreshed at all times
e) Crouch when ever possible and do not sprint without good reason
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PS players can’t do damage most of the time when sitting next to me as I am doing parries on the damn predator. PS players can’t even track a fast moving target and turn around to shoot at it (limitation of the controller). A PC predator would eat them alive 9 out of 10 times.
Do you even play randoms with FT? Do you even play FT? Nerf parry and the predator is going to destroy everything in melee short of 4 men PC premades(assuming he is any good).
If parry get’s any nerf, I am gong to disable crossplay for sure if I am not going to stop playing completely. On the PS side predators are going to dominate other PS players with no parry. They will have to do nothing else but leap in and melee them to death.
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