i only play randoms…
Knives still busted
Parry is another issue, for another thread. This is about how damaging the knife is. It should take at minimum 12 hits to 100% a predator.
And a similar number of hits for the predator to take down a FT. I would be downed with that.
A single clip of the hammerhead get’s the predator into second wind, the damage/time needs to be similar to that for the knife or its going to be garbage.
You simply don’t understand in a 1v1 a fireteam member should almost never ever beat the predator period. It is broken in its current state let alone the fact the game is already balanced in favor of the FT because they all suck and can’t play the game
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No you don’t though. The FT is strong, and the knife is not balanced it’s over powered. When Zerker got nerfed we didint buff anything else, because that’s not how that works. If something is too strong it needs to be nerfed
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And a FT will NEVER defeat a predator in 1v1 if the skills are similar, you just need to do MORE then smashing attack button. If you refuse to use 90% of your arsenal in 1v1 and then lose, its your own damn fault!
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The predator class got buffs all over the place, overall the berserker was buffed. Go read the patch notes. FT keep getting nerfs and the eventual fix as the predator keeps getting buffs.
I’ll try this next time, this could be a game changer for me personally. Appreciated 👍🏼
Math says the maximum is 11 hits for a predator to down an FT.
The hammerhead is a primary gun, with bullets and ammo. The knife is an infinite back up melee attack. The knife should be your last choice, not your first. There shouldn’t be a time you go, “I see the predator, let me pull out my knife and kill it.” it should be, “The predator is trying to stab me, let me pull out my knife and parry, so my team can put bullets into it.”
If you still don’t think the knife needs a nerf, only the minigun and extended mag smgs have a higher TTK at close range than the knife for secondaries. No pistol or shotgun, and the smgs need that extended mag. And that’s not even considering the knife perk. The knife needs a damage nerf so shooting becomes preferable to stabbing.
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I agree with that, but I’m saying it’s not even viable to attempt to just melee, is the problem
No he was not😂😂😂 ok man don’t just blow smoke out of your ass. The damage reduction hunter and scout received zerker did not. He positively was nerfed and hard. But I don’t care I don’t think he’s like useless now or anything. How ever you wanna try and twist this the knife is too strong. The fact I would rather pull that out than use my primary weapon should say something
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The berserker just got nerfed in melee pasive. At the same time buffing elder sword, disk and war club. Now if all someone was doing was smashing melee… Yeah, I can see how that could be a minus but the elder sword alone is the most powerful melee weapon the preds have and this is the patch they got it buffed. Overall he was not really nerfed and most certainly not hard. Did anyone even tried to find out how much of a damage nerf that was in melee from that pasive?
Then if you want to check from the start of the game how many buffs the preds got and how many nerfs I am all for it.
The knife is your first choice only when the predator is jumping on you in melee. You also tend to forget you need melee range on the predator and to see him coming to use that knife on him. Do you have any videos of you destroying the predators in melee over and over (good ones). I would love to see them. Because if someone get’s destroyed in melee, he is a bad one. The moment he noticed you parried, he should change tactics.
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Oh for sure, the predator got more buffs than nerfs. Because, if you remember, the FT was obscenely more powerful at the start. Now they are merely better.
And there’s the rub to it, its your first choice. The weapon every FT member always has is a first choice. Melee range isn’t that hard to get into against a melee predator, and unless he’s bunny hopping, or somehow sneaks up on you, getting the knife out in time is never an issue. Now if its only useful against bad predators, then nerfing the damage isn’t an issue, because you still have guns. And if you frequently run out of ammo and have to rely on the knife, maybe you should learn to aim better. But if you are choosing to stab instead of shoot because of the massive damage each stab does, that’s the problem. Your weapon of last resort should never have a first resort. The parry debate will rage forever, but this is purely talking about the damage.
They nerfed his health and melee passive and the buffs to literally all of those do not help him. The sword is the easiest weapon to parry and as this thread has stated, straight melee is not viable at all
I’ll take the little one, the Swiss one… it’s OP against grabs.
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In what patch did they nerf his health and by what amount?
So unless the predator plays right its easy to get into melee range? This is like saying its easy to kill the FT for splitting up in different directions. He is supposed to jump over people, come from the back/sides and not do frontal attacks. You want to nerf something because the pred needs to play bad and win? Seriously?
No, nerfing the damage it does its going to make fighting the predator in melee worse across the board since he does not even need to worry about moving away after he starts hitting you from the back.
The predator is supposed to drain the resources of the FT, what are you talking about? Aim better? The developers have NERFED FT ammo 2 times now. How is the ammo on the predator, do you run out of it or its unlimited?
I choose to stab and not shoot ONLY when the predator is in melee range since if you do not have that knife out you’re a free kill, FREE KILL! If he is not on my face and chasing someone else I always, ALWAYS choose bullets over running after him with a stupid knife since the predator is faster then you.
Again, its the first choice weapon when the predator is pounding on you because if you do not pull it out YOU’RE DEAD!
Let me put it simple, in the last 2 weeks (played tons of games) do you know how many times did I see a predator go down to someone jumping on him with a knife? A grand total of 0 times. Now, do you know how many games predator kill people in my team from high health to 0 with noting but melee attacks? Let’s say that its around 2 people in the vast majority of games.
If anything the predator needs a big nerf against PS players (and only PS players) in melee, they are complete fodder in 95% of my games when ANY predator get’s into melee range, like they can’t do shit.
Had a game last night where this predator played with 2 FT on PS. He was running around them (not in the bushes and not even cloaked) and jumping over them for 1:30 mins-2 mins or so and they could not kill him with bullets. Eventually he killed them both in melee with no difficulty at all. This game is really unfair to PS players as it is.
Not to say that the PC players are all gods, noticed many of them ending up dead in melee, including myself. The thing that kills me the most is melee even if I consider myself decent at parry.
Now you want to make this tactic more powerful for some reason? Why? Only explanation I have is that out of all the people you destroy in melee there is the occasional player who dares defend himself and does not roll over and die. We can’t have that! Melee is fine as it is, play the predator right and not run from the front expecting the FT to roll over and die and if he does parry you raise that combistick and 1 shoot him (he is not going to be at full health).
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