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#22

Again.
Women BAD.
Alien - bad, Terminator - bad, Mulan - bad.
Why is this take any better than:
“I’d rather spend my time fishing than watching a 2 hour Buff White Dudes ArE StrOnG AnD FiGhT SpaCe TarZaN aLiEn”

#23

Some of my favourite action heroes are women (Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor, just as an example). The only quarrel I have with female-centred hollywood movies nowadays is the message that is embedded in them. For example, the message is blatant ‘female good, men are bad’ in the Charlie’s Angels remake, and it’s hard to ignore. Movies of the past didn’t have to stoop to such low-IQ statements and actually told good stories with well-written, developed characters.

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#24

80’s action franchise

It’s not necessarily 80’s anymore though. Right?
And, like, we already saw a movie about a group of tough dudes fight a Space Tarzan in a forest THREE TIMES already.

First of all, Skulls was not officially announced as a Predator movie. It just as well could have been - from what we know - a surprise Predator movie. Like Split was a surprise sequel to Unbreakable.

Predator worked well because it’s a gear shift movie. It takes the classic slasher formula and spices it up. Predator 2 worked so well because it was not doing action movie/ slasher shtick again, but rather went to buddy cop movie/ slasher direction.

Repeating same stuff doesn’t work well. From the box office standpoint too. Bringing new ideas is a good thing, actually.

I’m also Predator audience. And I don’t want to see a movie about buff dudes chasing an alien in the forest for the THIRD time.

I literally know a dozen girls who love predator. Hell, @Aihrui right here is a prime example.

Marketing a movie about Comanche warriors fighting a Space Tarzan won’t appeal to people who essentially love action figures go BAM-BAM movies? Idk about that.

#25

But The original alien. And aliens. And terminator. And terminator 2 are universally loved? And have a woman lead

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#26

Repeating what fans of a franchise want works extremely well. Like alarmingly well. It doesn’t work well for awards. It works well for box office. Hence Friday the 13th, exists. Lol 12 of them to be exact

#27

And those are literally movies about women fighting against gender norms.
So, yeah, my point exactly.

#28

Those are not movies about woman fighting against gender norms???

#29

Literally are.

#30

The best females movie don’t focus on norms what so ever. It literally isn’t brought up in those movies

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#31

Those are films about people, in overcoming overwhelming odds. Saying it’s fighting a gender norm is almost sexist. Why would it not have been normal for ripley to want to escape the nostromo? Lol and why would it not be normal for Sarah Conner to not want to be assassinated by a robot then teach her son how to survive as well? There’s no norms being shattered there.

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#32

Explain to me what the norm was supposed to be then? Were we all supposed to expect them to lie over and die? What are you getting at here

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#33

And as far as your point on predator, notice the first one did well, all the rest did not. Because they did not follow the simple formula. They are still making Rambo movies. Are they great? No. Do they deliver what we expect in a Rambo movie? Yes. So we keep watching them. You are trying to make an objectively wrong point by saying deviate from basic marketing. Fans of your franchise, especially old ones relying on nostalgia, just want the same thing. Box office numbers entirely prove that point. Friday the 13th got a whole remake that was literally the same shit as the old ones and fans loved it. Same for nightmare.

#34

I am sorry, but you are, like, wrong.
If you don’t see why Aliens or Terminator 2 is a movie about female protagonists fighting against gender norms and capitalist corporate entities it means you don’t really analyze those movies.

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#35

By your logic any film with a female protagonist is about defying gender norms. This is nonsense.

#36

Is that’s what those movies are about? Do you refuse them to killer robot and space tick?

#37

I’m sorry wat

#38

So no defying the gender norms and fighting criticizing capitalist corporations in these movies?

#39

I’m sorry if you don’t think women can be bad ass, and if anytime they are presented as so you think it’s some boundary breaking stuff. But the rest of us were fully willing to watch these characters grow and succeed and not be baffled because we were never under the impression it would be impossible for them to do so. Again. Movies about humans overcoming seemingly impossible odds

#40

Predators is literally Predator, but with THREE Predators.

#41

Yes, there is. Is the fact that established characters are being converted to another ethnicity.

I’m latino, I am happy that they are making a latino character movie (blue beetle) instead of making a latino Bruce Wayne

When an asian character in Hollywood is portrayed by a white actor everyone screams in agony… but no one can say shit for a brown Mary Jane Watson or a black Valkyrie…

all that being said… I honestly don’t give a fuck about how they go with the predator franchise… predator movies and comic books are almost two entirely different universes… sort of like TWD series and TWD TV series

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