Nerf fire team health to 10 hp

Lmao most of that was for hood.
But not like it matters.

She was balanced tho.
She was what hunter used to be.
And no one cried about hunter back then.

But then pred got nerfed to shit.
Suddenly one with old stats came out, and ppl lost their minds and cried.

I find that funny.
So why was valk a problem but not hunter when hunter was in a good place?
They were literally the same.

If we compare them when they were in good spots.

Valky couldn’t carry traps and medkits so even back then she was never op, it balanced it.

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I find that kinda sad
The games where Pred is dying
Are the best I’ve ever had

I find it hard to long claim
I find it hard to strafe
When Pred bow spams in circles
It’s a very, very… Maaaad Wooooorld!!

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Lol, I mean I dont care anymore, literally just put that for old times sake.
People talking about broken and balance that have no idea what those actually are.

Doesnt matter tho.
They got what they wanted.

At the cost of a lot of players getting fucked over and pred fans too.
Lol

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First off because fuck pred, second fuck pred again.

My only problem with her was that she made pubs boring, you rarely got to fight anything but valks. None of those would have ever been a problem had Illfonic just balanced around the three main classes and allowed for greater customizations such as stat distribution and class locked weapons and abilities. Nah fuck that, can’t sell them skins without some incentive.

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Yep, never played as Pred, been FT main my whole life.

I remember how ppl on the forum cried so hard that CH was OP and then Illfonic nerfed it to the ground. It wasn’t OP, it’s just that all good Pred players started playing CH 'cause it was far better than trash Samurai, which was 1st DLC.

I who used to write IT reviews, among other things, know what means to look at things without taking sides, to see something for what it is. So yeah, I have an “idea” on what’s good and what’s not good, OP or not OP, whether it’s something in some game or the product.

If you stand still and get shredded, that’s on you. Same for the mask.
Invisible hit box for some branches can take up to 4 SAWZ shots before it’s broken, dealing 0 damage to the Pred, while Pred can shoot with whatever freely in that time window, so you do have a time window to deal dmg before you recieve any, while you’re protected by the same invisible branches.

I remember you crying when they nerfed Valk.

I don’t give a flying fuck anymore about this game.

I am able.

A really good one, yes. Then again, if the Pred is good, it’s a win for Pred.

It is broken if you have 4 really good FT’s against an average Pred player.
But if you have 4 good FT’s against a good Pred, Pred wins, not every match, but he can still win.
And I’m not saying this because I think this is the case, I’m saying from experience.

No I actually do know what balanced is.

I’d love to, but this is the only 1v4 game I played, I used to play PVP 5v5, 8v8, 10v10, where things are actually balanced for everyone, still do.

Yeah, I’m shaking out of fear dude, keyboard warriors scare me to death.

I think this was (the complete reply) more about you and your feelings, than me, since you don’t know me that well, most of the things you mentioned here saying “you this Hood, you that” are so far from the truth, that I’m actually sitting here and wondering, how should I approach this, without you thinking that I’m “attacking” your personality or something.

There was nothing to win, it was just a normal conversation for me.

There were a lot of valks back then.

Honestly the only reason I bought her was because someone told me she was basically what hunter used used to be. Or preds in general.
I forgot who told me.

It was nice, playing with the old stats.

This games a mess tho.
Honestly selling new skins is fine.
But new actual classes, should be free.

Unfortunately, illfonic.

Exactly, skins should be sold not these slightly stat changed variants.

Point of Scout class is the “I’m fast as fuck boi” class, fast glass cannon class ya know. Just modify the class further to reflect that at least or something. Only classes that have actual fast speed is Dante and Scout so in the end is just two nerfs for two classes. I’d only imagine Dutch 2025 being 5% faster than regular assault class cuz enhanced Predator DNA but thats it.

You’re definitely ft focused. Always have been.

So ch wasnt op but valk was?
Huh. The other classes werent shit so ch was in a balanced era.

Whether you wrote reviews for tech is kind of irrelevant when it comes to game balance.
I’m not saying that to bring rude, but it doesn’t fit in here.

You can easily get flanked, so sure the branches cover you from one angle but you can easily get hit from another.
And what is it that most ft do?
Flank from multiple angles.
Trees are death sentence vs even average aim.
And did you forget I’m a sniper too.
I hate the branches, but it’s a little thing pred has that doesn’t help as much as you think.

I wasnt crying when valk got nerfed, I stated facts.
That you thought it was crying well that’s your warped perception.
Idk what to tell ya except you’re wrong on that.

Yeah you’re able to kill pred solo?
Not impressive Hood. The damage numbers allow for it. You can thank ilfonic.

A good pred winning isnt a show of balance.
You go off certain scenarios, off of variables.
I’m going purely off numbers and data.

Again, no you really dont know what balance is.

Are a those games shooters hood?

You know, I find kinda fucked up you bring up the term keyboard warrior.
No one threatened you.
No one tried to take it out of the game.
So why are you?
Or do you not know what means?

When I said you won I meant the state of the game, not our Interaction. Theres no winner or loser in this conversation.

But you took a few things I said the wrong way, I guess you misunderstood, idk.

So, if you want to actually discuss this and have a conversation about it, in more than down to talk about the game with you so theres no confusion about what’s said.

We may not agree, but at least things can be explained and made clear in a faster manner.

Your call.

The game may not matter anymore but I’d rather we actually understand each other, even if we disagree.

Any of you guys remember when the likes of Shifo and CYSZ played this damn game? It used to be pretty damn fair back then. No wonder they left this fuckin trainwreck of a game. In terms of DPS the Fireteam is like Godzilla shooting atomic breath at a tiny ass Transformer that’s the Predator. It’s more unbalanced than the proportional head size of a guy with hydrocephalus like Jason Voorhees.

If you ask me, to balance out health, all the Predators that don’t have bullet damage resistance should be given some resistance depending on how tanky their class already is, movie accuracy, and what their armour looks like it would be able to withstand etc. The Fireteam perk Thick skin shouldn’t give 25 extra health and should be reduced back to the original 15. The 20% Damage reduction when near a Support should be reduced to 10% max, be made unstackable, and should only be effective within 10 metres. Dante should be nerfed like fuck in every way possible - he is literally Dutch 87 but he can run as fast as a Scout with double time, and he is practically immune to Plasma compared to other classes. He may as well be a literal human Predator.

One idea I’ve had as well as of course new perks for Predators is give Predators 3 passive perks/abilities that they can select like a second form of perks, but will simply aid them in certain game mechanics e.g. Increased Scanning speed, increased resistance to water shorting out cloak, reduced footstep noise, when caught in a bear trap Fireteam are slowed for 30 seconds if they escape, reduced Plasma Caster and Bow charge time, Wrist Blades deal bleed damage etc.

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I love it when everage (at best) players give their input so passionately as if they were the top 1%

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Im not sure I like the decrease charge time for bow and caster. Like it would help, but I feel that’s too much.

I think most of these you mentioned are good, but I would honestly just lower dantes speed and maybe health.

I only find his speed to be a problem tbh.

You always love to talk shit eh?

Dante is the best thing that happened to this game, they should rename the game to Dante’s Inferno.

Oh so that’s what you’re into huh?
Hey no judgement.

No, you misunderstood, ppl were asking for nerfs for CH saying it was OP, but it wasn’t OP, it’s just that all good players bought and started using CH back then. So CH got nerfed, 'cause majority of ppl on the forums were complaining about CH.

It is relevant, because it requires you to form and have objective opinion, on the side note, I play PVP games since '99, Unreal, Quake, CS in LAN among other games, so I do and can tell when something is balanced or not.

What makes your opinion relevant tho?

I honestly had no clue. We never played together.

Helps you long enough to pop a few shots and move right away so you don’t get melted.

I just turned your word against you and this is your reaction, “I’m right (again) and whoever doesn’t agree with me isn’t”.

It actually is, considering that majority can’t even land a single bullet on Pred, don’t even know how to mud up and play PHG like they never played a video game before.

No, I’ll thank myself for not being a potato.

Counter Strike - Shooter
Unreal Tournament - Shooter
Duke Nukem - Shooter
Quake - Shooter
Valorant - Shooter
Bloodhunt - Shooter, 3rd person.
Etc.

I found it hilarious when you said “scared” of something in the game, considering that I survived the bombardment of my city when I was 11, a bomb literally fell like 300 meters away from my house, so being “scared” about the game or some keyboard internet warrior is hilarious to me.

But I have zero influence on illfonic’s decisions, nor was I “yelling” on the forums, saying FT is too weak or whatever. Whatever was done to the game, that’s on illfonic, they make the final cut and decision.

That’s also a possibility.

I’m always open for discussion and conversation if it’s not a one way street.
It’s completely normal for ppl to agree or not on something, we’re all different and that’s fine.

Well some people from my experience went to extremes, where they would cease all contact and lose a friend or ppl they knew over a game. I wonder if those same ppl, sit somewhere at some point and think about how many friends they lost over a stupid game that’s gonna die sooner or later.

How dare you sir!!! How dare you!!

Those guys were awesome, Shifo’s enthusiasm and passion was infectious. He saw the signs early though, and bailed on a high. CYSZ was the original disc master, loved watching his content but he was another who saw the writing on the wall.

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The decrease in Bow and Plasma Charge time would only be a passive ability that a Predator can select on a loadout and it wouldn’t be that much of a charge speed increase anyway. Just something that is a small passive ability that doesn’t have too much effect on game, but makes it more interesting and technical. It would give people a reason to pick something based on their preference and not Meta to win.

And Dante isn’t the only fucker who needs nerfing ya know🤣 every Fireteam member except Isabelle is overpowered. Even Dutch 2025 has at least Leader spec. But yeah Dante is very fast with Fanatic and piss-takingly fast with Double time alongside it. This speed wouldn’t be too much of a problem if he didn’t take reduced damage while sprinting, and from explosives so you can’t just Plasma Spam him to death either, especially as Fireteam DPS is of course much higher. On the other hand also, his tankiness wouldn’t be a problem if he wasnt so fast. Realistically he should only be one or the other. Not both. He can have an effective health of over 600 in a match. He can also be faster than Scout with double time if you use Fanatic and double time perk on him.

In short, he is way too OP in virtually every way, unbalanced in practically every way, and needs to be nerfed.

The Fireteam sided game is quite literally like this:

City Hunter comes out and is best in the game
People cry and say he is OP - City Hunter is nerfed.

Valkyrie comes out and is best in the game
People cry about it and say she is OP - Valkyrie is nerfed

Dante comes out OP asf, stays OP asf despite clear, and well informed on imbalance, and Fireteam gets a pay-to-win DLC that stays pay-to-win, while the Predators get a dozen shit classes like Emissary who are all Berserker reskins or worse versions of the Scout, and the only good DLCs are City Hunter and Valkyrie that get nerfed. Heck I’m just surprised they didn’t nerf Cleopatra aswell!🤣

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