No i mostly play predator, but from the beggining its been obvious the game relys completley on fireteam, the game needs to be more interesting to play as them or atleast somehow have the things that apeal to squadbased fps games you cant release a game that has no core stat tracking leaderboard or anything like that and expect it to matter because you marketed it under the predator licence, how the hells that even work when you modeled after pred one??
Lonewolf predator?? Its baffling to me obviously all the solo players are gonna flock to that but you made it a multiplayer squad based? Where noone wants to be in the squad.
Im so confused as too how this came out like this? Are devs hands tied??
Atleast pred 2 had a hunting party at the end coulda worked with that.
The ballance issues just further my frustrations with a game that has essentially nothing to make players play past either hitting lvl 100 or running headfirst into crippling ballance issues that make you leave its witch ever cones first.
People think this is balance...?
Beeing too easy to destroy preds is not helping with that. I agree with all of what you said but this doesnât make this patch bad.
Also, what you have to admit is, if you are, like me, a huge predator main, that doesnât really take much fun in playing the Fireteam is, we donât all have fun the same way. I always though people would not have fun doing generators again and again and again and AGAIN AND AGAIN in Dead By Daylight but⌠theyâre still at it x)
We have to admit that we have fun in different ways, and something not fun for you would can be fun for others ^^
They went overboard on the boars. I hope they pull that back by at least fifty percent. There are groups of four or five boars quite often.
I m waiting for second FT nerfing pack, coz play as FT is toooo easy for me and this is main reason, why it not to interesting: you can easy destroy all jungle. I want they improve AI enemies, coz that enemies are too stupid and dont do any damage, its like shooting in some dummy.
FT must be nerfed more
What does âbefore the patchâ matter? Youâre talking about something that doesnât exist anymore.
No. Predator players just suck. What youâre saying is that you should make the barrier of entry for the CORE players even higher, which is a TERRIBLE thing to do. Fireteam SHOULD be overpowered in a group. They SHOULD 4v1 a Predator no problem.
Wait wait wait. You are complaining that the Predator got too much buffs but you are completely ignoring any argument about how overpowered the Fireteam was against them before the patch? So you wanna post âPredator got â20â buffsâ, which is a grossly dishonest and deliberately misleading way to phrase because you massively ignored and addressed nothing of the substance of those buffs and the state the game was in to rationalize or explain a case for or even against, but donât wanna talk about how the Predator was before? Thatâs like saying before generic drug was legal it was illegal because itâs so bad and causes such damage but then ignore that this was debunked and thatâs why it was legalized. That doesnât make any fucking sense you moron.
Also⌠when I posted the comment above
"Pre-Patch 1.06 Fireteam could have up to 48 full heals on stand by.
Predator has up to 3 full heals ready and has to take time from hunting Fireteam to MAYBE find boars for half health a piece.
âBalancedâ"
You responded with:
"Half health? Boars fill the Predatorâs health up to 100%, and they spawn in an unlimited fashion. It isnât balanced, or fair, as it gives the Predator a constant âget out of jail free cardâ. "
You were addressing my PRE PATCH COMMENT with a POST PATCH remark. Notice I said PRE PATCH. You deliberately ignored that.
So. Let me reiterate my point since you canât seem grasp basic concepts.
Before the patch Fireteam could have up to 48 full heals, with 12 75% heal syringes that can be popped mid combat with a Predator and the Predator had a maximum of 3 heals which take an extended period to use and leave them very vulnerable to taking heavy damage even with a cancellation with potentially 1-2 other heals if they got super lucky and found four boars and youâre complaining the Predator got buffed?
See you donât wanna have that discussion⌠because you know it makes you sound like a fucking retard. So you just wanna play this little childish ass game of, âOh little Timmy got 20 more cookies than little Johnnyâ and look at how unfair that is and exclude the part where little Johnny had 68 fucking cookies and had access to anywhere from 3 to 16 cookies every room they traveled through and Timmy had 3 and then the only cookies he had access to were fucking crumbs. So if you are gonna bitch about something, try not to be a fucking baby about it and then turn around and call everyone else childish because you have the mental capacity of a fucking infant you stupid fuck.
Also that statement of yours isnât even fucking true. The boars heal about 80-85% of your health at present. So you donât even have your fucking facts straight god damn moron. And also in that comment you ignore that a Fireteam can still have up to⌠36 full heal with med kits with gearhead plus three to nine full heals around the map plus, if they are Support, 9 75% heal stim packs? And you are bitching about the boars? Whenâs the last time you saw 50 boars on the map dip shit? Or a Predator three heals mid combat to regen a total 75% of his health each time?
Yes, because predator was underpowered af. Are you assuming that the game was balanced before? If it was, no adjustments would be necessary.
Now we are in a somewhat nice place in my opinion. Compared to a good FT team that actually plays as a team, you still gotta be pretty good as predator to get things done, but cant stomp random PS players too hard either.
Next step I think its more about fixing exploits and cheats.
No. Predator players just suck. What youâre saying is that you should make the barrier of entry for the CORE players even higher, which is a TERRIBLE thing to do. Fireteam SHOULD be overpowered in a group. They SHOULD 4v1 a Predator no problem.
So let me get this straight, in a 4 versus 1 the game should be designed to handicap the 1 that is ALREADY at a numbers disadvantage and make the 4 that already have a numbers advantage, among others, even stronger? Thatâs your brilliant fucking idea you stupid twat? And then turn around and have the gall to claim that Predator players are âjust badâ when you actively support RIGGING IT AGAINST THEM? Are you fucking shitting me? You are a literal fucking parody of yourself.
Theres not a point in telling players to get better with pred anymore, nobody will listen and will just get aggressive and super defensive. At this point its best to just not have to deal with the headache.
Incorrect. FT has no need at all to split and a Predator has no tools to split them by force. So, according to your opinion, if the FT members just stay all the time together, a Predator must be doomed to lose?
No way. I keep getting team wipe after team wipe with predator. Only bad predator players could possibly be losing in the current state of the game. Seriously, Iâve only had two teams escape since the last patch, and they only had two or three survivors.
If your not doing well as predator, try watching some YouTube of other players and recognize the strategies they use for success.
f*ck, WHAT?!? In the whole Predatorâs universe no one squad can easily calm down any predator, its always with more bloods, corpses and horror!!! Or you just want some freaking childâs game shooter without any tactic, just running across jungle and kill everyone you see and have fun with it? FireTime is still OP in this game and you no need to be some experienced player to win match and coz there is too many ppl who can easy win as FireTeam and too less ppl who just can still alive as Predator and it is completely imbalance. With all my time spent in this game since its relise I dont remember if Iâd played vs. any player who play as Predator Scout ⌠it too rarry to see Scout in this game coz it too difficult play as another any Pred class except Berserk. This is Predatorâs hunt, this is not FireTeamât hunt. I donât want the Funny Time game, I want difficult team work where you must worry about every teammate in your squad, where you must think twice wich class you must be in certain team. Fire Team must be like in some MMO RPG game team, when y must have Tank, Healer and couple DPS. This game must have tactics in gameplay, not just run, shoot and easy win.
Same for you and ppl who thinking like you : GO TO YOUTUBE AND LEARN TOO PLAY AS FIRETEAM. Today Iâve played for FT with full team in Private Match and every 10 runs weâve allways win, coz it too easy to see, mark and shoot Pred by far distance and Iâm not tell anything about knife coz it full Predator trolling in this game- it is balance?
I donât think these kids actually want a balanced game they want a more of "damn Iâm so awesome " type of experience, and so far they are getting it. By having a way overpowering character like the predator it lets them dominate which boost their confidence which could lead to them leaving their parents basements perhaps
Anyone who thinks that the new patch didnt do better towards balancing is dumb as fuck. First of all before this patch it was impossible to lose as fireteam. Even an ok and i mean ok in the lowest sense could easily win. The predator takes skill and practice. Not a ok lets rush in and fight everyone at once. Its also a shoot and move type not stay in one place keep shooting from said place and scream at FT when they find you. FT now has to manage heals and bullets. Thats perfect i like that. It has made me play smarter as FT instead of just fuck it spray and pray while we were gods. Ugh i could go on but im already getting annoyed with myself for typing so damn much.
Youâre the one that brought up the changes the patch brought with this topic. You are comparing the predator before the patch to after the patch. Well not compare so much as mention the exaggerated number of buffs and nerfs talking about balance. But the buffs and nerfs were made due to the state of the game before the patch, so it is stupid of someone to talk about a patch without how it was before and after.
First off, the patch itself isnât balanced, it did buff the predator more than nerf him. However, it did balance the GAME more than it was before. Which is the point of the patch. It wasnât to keep the game the same as it was before, it was to make the sides more even. So yes the predator got more buffs than nerfs, so the game is more even.
The fireteam should not be anymore overpowered than the predator. despite it being an asymmetrical multiplayer game doesnât mean that an entire sideâs power should be asymmetrical. Sure, in open combat, the 4 should kill the 1, but thatâs not the game. The end result should be that the predator wins just as much as it loses.
The FT needs nerfs so its not overpowered, and have no problem.
This game just came out it has potential just rough around the edgesâŚ