People think this is balance...?

#41

Sick of responding to this… In the predator universe, yes a predator most likely can solo an entire 4 - man squad, easy. But news flash. THIS IS A GAME.

Why is it so hard to understand? If the game feels that the FT sucks ass and is not fun to play NO ONE WILL PLAY THEM. IF NO ONE PLAYS FT, NO ONE CAN PLAY AS PREDATOR. < What most of us want right? Why is this so hard to understand?
I get it, yes everyone wants Predator to just mutilate and roll through the FT 1v4 - BUT THERE IS NO BALANCE TO THIS. See it from a design standpoint. NOT A MOVIE, NOT CANNON. If people roll through 1v4, the game will suffer because the dynamic of “strength in numbers” fails as well.

I’m not here to fight with people on this. Unfortunately, this is the dynamic. As much as it sounds cold, if you don’t like it, tough. If you really want it to be easy to 1v4 as a predator, cool, but the game will not last long due to that, and no one will get to play as the predator eventually.

Just some adds to the developer (if they’re even reading any of this) - For predator, adding the target isolation to the boars was great. -They did not need to add a boar farm. Healing predator to full from a boar, is just fine… just put the boars back to where they were pre-patch, in terms of quantity.

They also need to make it so the plasma cannon, when fully charged - will down everyone with one hit (minus a Support with perks - but put him very close to being down, another quick, non charged hit could then down them). Also, they need to make it that the targeting laser shows up ONLY when the plasma cannon is more than half charged. Not right as he starts targeting. C’mon, wtf.

Again, they need to turn down the sound of predator’s footsteps, especially on trees, and his constant noise making. The growling needs to be severely nerfed. He should only make the sound potentially when spotted, or right as he’s running in for the kill.

Fix his weapons too! The club should do more damage than the claws, etc etc. Claws should be base, and damage goes up from there. Again, all of this stuff still needs to be addressed.

I think a lot of the stuff from the most recent patch needs to be rolled back. There were good stuff in there, but other stuff needs to be toned down or reverted completely.

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#42

I don’t want the predator to steamroll four FT at the same time. I do, however want the FT to struggle to confirm the kill, instead of hunting the hunter.

At the very least, I want a support with thick skin and OWLF training to be downed from full health by a scout with wristblades in the same number of hits that someone with a knife and yautja bane and heavy hitter to kill that same scout. (If I said that in a confusing way: I want there to be no loadout that lets a knife kill faster than wristblades.)

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#43

But the ideas you gave are good ones.

#44

And realistically they need to do something about the knife. It’s crap.

The knife should be allowed to parry 1-3 swings from Predator, enough time for the guy to maybe yell “help”, then it either breaks, or the FT get exhausted. There should be no damage from the knife to predator. If someone wants to attack predator with a knife, it should do laughable damage, like 1 HP - because, you can’t fight predator with a knife in reality. -Now if they later want to add a sword, or katana (and a class that somehow has a perk for melee) then that’s something different.

Knife should be for a few parries and running faster - nothing else.

#45

Adding to knife running and all that though… with second wind they should give predator an additional 25- 40% speed buff during that time to run away, so that it is not possible (without real danger) trying to “chase” him down.

#46

I’ve played FT/Predator equally, I find the game to be balanced, you nerf the predator any further then where he’s at right now and the FT will hunt the predator like at launch. I’ve had no issues beating the predator as fire team. People just love to whine no amount of nerfing or buffing will equate to skill, I’ve played as FT and met shitty predator players (I’m level 90) and I’ve played as predator and met shitty fire teams that split up and don’t communicate. My experience with both is that I win the Large majority/percentage of my games 90% of the time I win, FT or Predator.

Also half of this forum complains the FT is Weakened, Half complain the predator is too weak what is that ? Balance.

#47

TLDR

#48

Ah. The universal sign of the feeble minded getting caught in the act.

#49

Man, I have same opinion with your suggestion about some predator’s things, BUT you maybe don’t understand me well, coz on my opinion play for fire team must be hard as play as for predator. You say that they will quit this game if gameplay for FT will be difficult, but if you read these forums well, you should see the opposite opinion of MOST ppl that the Predator is very weak in this game. This game is about a Predator and if it still weak, then no one will play this game for sure. This was the case with Friday13. And yes, if you have some problem while playing as FireTeam, then or you r PS4 player or noob.

#50

The fireteam already hunts the predator. Even in random lobbies. There are plenty of players who hunt the predator and kill them solo. Because once the pred is hurt bad enough A scout with double time and knife out can chase down a zerk or hunter. In and out of second wind. Because the scout still has near infinite stamina. So you tell me that is balance and I will tell you that you’re full of crap.

Anyone who says this current game is balanced is living in a fantasy. Yes the really good players are going to win regardless because they are smart and use what they have to their advantage. But for a random lobbie of casual players. The game sways heavily in the Fire teams favor.

At the end of the day more balance is needed. The Predator needs to be stronger then the fireteam. Which isn’t the current case. An before you make a comment oh your must be a cod player… No i hate cod. I play games like Evolved, dead by daylight, Friday the 13th, Last year… There will never be perfect balance in a game like this. The current state is awful.

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#51

I play against random players all the time as predator, and have no issues destroying them, learn how to use the predator instead of crying OP. I play as FT and smoke the predator too. It’s about SKILL people are making it a OP/UP thing when it’s more of a lack of SKILL thing. If I can win 90% of my games as the predator and 90% of my games as the fireteam but all I see is half players crying predator is OP, and half players crying FT is OP I’m just left scratching my head. Instead of learning the game you guys want one side or the other to be this unstoppable force that can’t lose. Predator was never immortal in any predator movie in existence, he was never unstoppable. He was the apex hunter, but he can be damaged he can be killed, complain less and get good, spend less time in this forum and more time in the game learning how to use the predator.

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#53

For all who complain about berserker and combi. As soon as you unlock the Shotgun CS-12 level 8 with EXTENDED MAGS no one berserker can beat you in a close range fight. They didn’t nerf shotgun damage and it has 20 bullets that can be fired very fast. Just improve aim and use this and all berserker are fucked. Immagine having 2 or 3 shooting on him with this weapon at the same time when he is rushing on you…it’s gg easy.

#54

No I never said that they will quit if playing as them is difficult. I said they will quit if they get steam rolled while 4v1 against a predator. Difficulty is one thing, having broken power concentration is another. Your literal comment:

Like I said, I UNDERSTAND what you are saying, and if this was a Movie/Comic Book/ Book -or other non interactive or “passive” medium, then that would be fine. You are the one that keeps saying the stuff, I literally quoted you saying above. That pretty much a predator should be able to go 1v4 and down the whole team. This does not work for a game mechanics.

Personally, I wish that they had made the FT 7-8 players so Predator could go in and take out 3/4 ppl at a time, but then we’d still have the fucking problem where people, such as yourself, would then be complaining they couldn’t wreck the entire 7 or 8 people at once “because Predator does so in the movies”.

It has been said on these forums multiple times, FT plays as a STANDARD FPS style. The predator is a different control / play style in itself, and with that requires some getting used to. The game has only been out (including demo weekend) for two-ish weeks, and people are complaining that the predator is weak, he is not. Stuff he has is broken, and needs to be fixed (as in his weapons doing less damage then claws, or the plasma cannon being lack luster - needs to be powered up). People could take out the whole FT before the patch, and now can do so even better after the patch due to stupidity in nerfs.

It’s not a “git gud” or Learn 2 play", but it is - you need to practice when a new dynamic and play style comes in. Most people suck ass starting in CounterStrike, but then learn the dynamics of it (albeit retarded) and end up being decent players down the road - WITH PRACTICE. Some people start and are just initially good playing. Most people SHOULD already be pretty decent as FT, as they have played this style over and over in other games.

The medium is, if no one was downing FT at all (and taking them all on in certain circumstances), then we’d have a problem, but that is not the case. Plenty of people have and do. The issue is that this class has been out for two weeks and people want to have a handicap not actually practice to get better. -Obviously if people are having trouble getting into games, this is a difficult task in itself.

#55

Your words: [quote=“CritManLive, post:27, topic:4259”]
They SHOULD 4v1 a Predator no problem.
[/quote], then I wrote about Predator’s universe and how it difficult kill and then: “Or you just want some freaking child’s game shooter without any tactic, just running across jungle and kill everyone you see and have fun with it?”, coz your [quote=“CritManLive, post:27, topic:4259”]
They SHOULD 4v1 a Predator no problem.
[/quote] = its ridiculous imbalance

#56

You are a very, very, angry individual. You should probably stop playing video games and fix your mental issues.

#57

What? The AA-12 is a dogshit weapon. It does no damage. You use the minigun against a close combat Predator.

#58

My post was directed at the fact Illfonic don’t know how to properly balance a game. This game is dead due to that patch as it made playing with friends absolutely pointless. Illfonic needed to fix the bugs that the Predator STILL has, not buff it so the bugs are even MORE powerful, then nerf the fireteam which makes the Predator bugs even MORE powerful again. They buffed the Predator WAY too many times in that single patch which has made players just simply quit as they’ve seen through Illfonic’s bullshit of not wanting to actually fix the core issues that they game has.

#59

Since there aren’t any patch notes up yet, could someone make a list on the nerfs/buffs etc etc?

#60

Stop the sanctimonious gamer bullshit you stupid cunt. We all know you’re a Predator cuck that doesn’t give a fuck about game balance. Go back to Tangent’s stream or some shit. Your type ruin assymetric games.

#61

I like how you just called me a very, very angry person and that I should focus on my mental issues and then proceed to act like this unprovoked… a month later XD