People's Understanding of the Predator in Game and in the Movies.

#1

Reading through these forums, it saddens me that not a lot of people can even understand how rather accurately Illfonic has captured the spirit of the first Predator Movie and the Predator himself. If you’re reading this, you’ve done an amazing job, course the game’s not perfect, but I have no doubt it’ll all be fixed in time. I appreciate the rather fast Hotfix in these trying times.

Back to main topic, people seem to be under the impression and expect that as the Predator, they can do whatever they want, when they want. Say, kill an entire elite squad of soldiers effortlessly the first time. What people don’t understand is that, even in the very first movie, the Pedator was not this hulking badass (I’ll get to the Berserker class in a sec) who would slaughter whole squads like Doomguy would the armies of Hell. The Predator was practically a Alien Guerilla Fighter, utilizing the environment, picking off one by one, until finally there’s not that much left to fight head to head at all, and whoever that would be, was worthy.

Speaking of Movie/Lore in Game, of course, the game could use some balancing, we get it, Predator is not exactly as strong as expected, either weak or very strong in some areas, such as Jungle Hunter being weaker than Hunter or Berserker being too powerful for ill prepared Fireteams or getting slapped by a Yautja Bane Sqaud. Give the developers time. You got what you paid for and I am happy with my purchase.

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#2

My guess is…disgruntled unemployed Game Developers jealously ranting.
because you don’t talk about Over Powering characters when you can upgrade and customize your characters to balance gameplay. Nuff said.
If you suck , you suck. There will always be people in the world who suck.

#3

Yeah, like the reinforcements in the Movie when DUTCH instantly respawned all his teammates after he got muded and then they proceeded to kill the weak, no healing Predator.
Yeah dude, they really catched that…
Give me a FUCKING break…

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#4

Are you using your Med-Kits sparingly? The Large Pouch gives you an additional Med-Kit so you can attack more confidently the first couple of times.

Like I said, the game needs balancing. No Asymmetrical Game is going to be perfect the first week of launch. You’re asking the impossible there.

#5

No, the idiots from Illfonice feared that the Predator might be OP and they chose to put him in the grave.
I do not feel like a Predator at all…I do not waste a gear just for that when all enemy fireteam can call Reinforcements for NOTHING, not even using a gear for that.

#6

While thats all fine a good, and somewhat accurate, it’s still VERY flawed.

In the movies he is a guerilla, no doubt, he would pick off one by one, but he also rushed entire teams (Predator 2, Voodoo clan and inside the warehouse).

Problem in this game is.,…the soldiers doesnt stay DEAD. The Fireteam can heal, revive, resupply, run fast, block melee, and see a cloacked predator and spot him.

IF you want this game to be like the movies, the Fireteam needs a MASSIVE rework.

There is no denying it, the Predator has very little in terms of tactics in his gameplaystyle, picking them off one by one is a waste, the come back, and rushing them usually means you die. If you manage to survive and maybe kill 1-3, you need to run off and heal, that takes ages and you only get 2 heals. By the time you are back up and ready, that last guy is already doing his reinforcement mission and you have no way to counter it.

Meta for Predator? Berserker and RUSH them with the stick, its the only way against seasoned players right now. As much as i love the cannon, its becoming impossible to use against good Fireteams.

So people’s complaints are as valid as they come, the Fireteam are VERY OP, and the Predator has a very weak arsenal PLUS he i so heavily cooldown dependant.

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#7

I think the main balance issue isn’t so much what the predator can’t do but more what the fire team CAN do. Spotting, respawn, parry, mudded up snipers that you literally can’t find, etc.

#8

See, what I do, is down the first or first couple of Fireteam members down with projectiles, and make sure to finish them off at a distance. Then, they come running to the Reinforcement to revive their one to two guys, and then I actually use my resources to really attack them. When you say, feel as the Predator, what do you even mean?

#9

Getting rushed my all 4 fireteam with knifes is fun, they literally down you in seconds,. Plus this update as ruined the matchmaking I’m waiting on average 13 minutes for a game,

#10

Tell me, are you new to the game? Because im gonna assume you havent been in alot of matches yet.

What you are doing now is just trying to justify your own purchase. I bought this, and im SERIOUSLY regretting it now. They just rolled out a patch, it did NOTHING. It seems they pulled a placebo patch post, because none of the fixes worked.

Give credit where credit is due, Illfonic hasn’t done this game right yet, and a few small “fixes” won’t turn me over when they dont even work. Im getting annoyed at developers with more than enough resources to make amazing games, but they choose to be lazy and hope the license sells, and Predator is a huge license, so they know it doesnt have to work, they just want their annual earnings.

Sony is backing this game…SONY, they have more money than god, yet we get 3 maps that are pretty much identical.

#11

GIve me a fucking break…
I need to heal a little in the distance because at later levels my invisibility is utter trash, I am being spotted like there is no tomorrow. I go heal and when I return most of the either mud or are way to far for me to counter the Reinforcement.
After the Reinforcements they seem to get more and more agressive actually chasing me?
For real?What is this shit.
The facts remain, the FIRETEAM needs a HUGE NERF & REWORK, or at least the Reinforcements needs to be disabled and when a soldier dies it gives a some ammo and meds to the others.
I just can’t win if a Fireteam stay together, I can’t do shit to separate them, If I manage to kill one or two of them I can’t heal because they will Reinforce them, again and again, lived to see two Reinforcement of 1 and 2 playes while I run out of healing and can’t do shit.
They have infinite heals and ammo all over the map? What do I have, a boar that is sparse and actually runs away.
I do not know how the people from Illfonic thought this was fair, I mean, how dumb they must be to not realize how OP the Fireteam is and how utter SHIT the Predator is.
There is no fun in playing Predator…I might not play until a rework is done.

#12

You just confirmed you havent played against good teams, or even alot of matches. We all know that “tactic”, problem is it wont work on good or even average teams. I know all the tricks of the Predator by now, leveld up to 50 now using almost only the Pred, and tactics goes right out the window if you face a team that know what they are doing.

#13

Oh my god!!! Thank you!!! I’m sick of getting to the first objective to find the predator there uncloaked and swinging his spear round like a baton girl…then they moan about the time pred takes to heal…or how fast the fire team team is…or how it doent take long enough to call in reinforcements games have gone from lasting full time to now lasting 4 minutes cus people just run in. They dont seem to play properly how the predator is meant to be played…you have cloak for a reason predator is all about stealth and honourable kills tracking his prey and only taking the best trophies… you shouldn’t really be getting spotted so you shouldn’t moan about heal time…in fact fuck it just make predator invincible…that’s what these kids want…theyve never seen the original I guess only this new age shit like AVP. Honestly they need to rebalance this so people cant just run in as the pred as since people are now like lvl 50 they all just zerg it…run in spamming melee…your supposed to be in the trees you fool…your supposed k be cloaked tracking us…whittling us down 1 by 1…not just pretending your a god damn god. Anyway rant over just glad someone else feels players arent doing how predator justice. Shame really cus this game is really good yes needs polish but game itll get there…we barely get to see the rest of the game at the moment…

#14

As I said, the game isn’t perfect, I and I find myself agreeing with your points about the amount of opportunities Fireteam has to Resupply (Tools, Map Drops, etc.)

Are you getting lit up or getting into Final Stand before they Reinforce?

No doubt these complaints are valid. The main topic of my post was mentioning the people who blindly call this game bad who don’t understand what it was meant to be.

#15

You are an idiot…
Cloack is useless if team have recon…They can sport me from far away…

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#16

No, as a matter of fact, I am not. Around Level 55 today iirc. I have killed Fireteams that camp, killed Fireteams that hunt me down believing I am easy pickings, and I choose to physically fight them even as Berserker sparingly or when I know they aren’t expecting me.

#17

Must be watching a different movie cause I remember watching a predator one shot or stab everyone. With Arnold only giving it a hard time due to the mud. But when it came to that last fight he got his ass handed to him. Balance he says lol. You shouldn’t to have plasma shot net gun and slash to kill one ft member. You should be able to kill one at least fairly quick before the other come in but you can’t by the time its time to cliam the trophy you’ve already spent most of your resources trying to disburst the group and god that broken ass dead brain parry needs a nerf.

#18

Then learn a new strategy…you have far superior ranges weapon…set traps you know…hunt

#19

Agreed, the Predator itself isn’t meant to be like Behemoth from Evolve that can jump in the middle of the fire fight, tanking damage and trading blows. The thing about the Predator is picking it’s opportunities and using “hit n run” tactics, while making the best use of your equipments.

But I do belive the game needs some more balancing, mostly to Predator Scout class and some of his weapons, the bow needs to cause more damage or passive debuff and also damage based on body part hit, the club needs to cause more damage, net needs to slow them down, etc. The Scout at the moment is too vulnerable and he doesn’t feel that fast, maybe make him faster and attack faster.

Yeah, it should be 8 vs 1, except all weapons are hit kill for both sides, humans should be extremly slow and with limited ammo, and the Predator only uses two weapons.

What kind of argument is that? This is a game so is expected to have game mechanics in it, tho I agreed about the Predator having limited resources when the Fireteam can easily stock up resources with multiple ways, and has some major balancing problems.
I belive that if the Fireteam gains some sort of reinforcement, the Predator should also receive more resources to fight back the fireteam, Scout should be the only one able to spot the Predator, the Fireteam movement should be more limited, Support should be the only one able to carry a minigun, and their weapons should have some weight mechanic to it like someone with a minigun should be slower then someone without it.

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#20

No dude, it’s totally fair, I kill two guys, go to heal and the two guys come back in UNDER A MINUTE.
Totally fair, totally…

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