Predator is supposed to be OP that's the Point

[Wolfs0n]

I came into this game looking forward to both sides of this asymmetrical multiplayer, I was looking forward to the high intensity of being chased by the Predator and escaping by the skin of my teeth with my friends or those rare occasions of being able to outsmart the Predator and maybe even kill him.
I was looking forward to being the Predator with a vast arsenal of Alien tech to chase down the fire team and claim their skulls.

But it fails on both sides, I am convinced no one that actually thinks Predator is fine the way he is now, has actually seen the original movies, read the comics or touched anything Predator before this game.
The Predator gets his name for a reason, they are the greatest Hunters in the Universe, hunting the most dangerous species across the stars cementing their place as Apex Predators.
But in this game where the emphasis is supposed to be on survival and escaping the Predators, has quickly turned into hunting down the hunter.
There’s no fun in playing the fireteam when the Predator is not only easily gunned down like some miniboss in another game but also easily spotted, heard, wounded even parried!
There’s no catharsis in escaping or beating him cuz it’s so damn easy, this is disrespectful to the cultural icon of sci-fi the Predator is.
This isn’t the Xenomorphs, yes they go down easy but they have numbers, reproduce insanely fast and learn to overwhelm.
The Predator should being kicking ass and taking skulls by the sack full, I wanna earn my victory against the Predator and the Fireteam should earn their victories against me when I play Predator.
That’s the major reason so many did buy this game, a showdown with the Predator matching teamwork and wit against superior tech and technique.
My heart should be pounding when I hear the Predator approach, I shouldn’t be thinking “Welp time to shred another alien twinkie” I should not be associating the Predator’s threat level with that of a cream filled sponge cake!

The point of an asymmetric multiplayer is for the killer/monster to be overpowered enough that a 4+ player team is required to win or survive.
Predator is literally perfect for such a game yet he’s a damn sponge cake that’s about as stealthy as Godzilla in a China factory.

[Fenris]

I’m glad someone understands.

[behrg]

Agreed. I’m too frustrated to keep playing because of how difficult predator gameplay is. I’ll watch for changes made to favor predator and play more if it happens, but for now its just a damn shame.

[Agent47]

To be fair the Predator is overpowered compared to the individual fire team member. Any 1v1 scenario and the Predator wins 100% of the time. It takes the whole team to bring him down. I mean he’s not indestructible, which is why he picked Dutch’s team off one at a time. He didn’t hop down in the middle of em swinging his combistick. That’s recreated fairly faithfully here.

And again before anyone loses their ever loving s**t, I’m not saying hard no to any buffs/nerfs. Just stating the Pred here isn’t as far off from the source material as some would think.

[Fenris]

I can’t but agree everything just feels stacked against the pred I’ll be looking for something that cripples The stack but so far no luck.

[Xenomorph_2099]

I feel like you’re getting the point, but also missing it. Predator story after Predator story has shown the Predator be on the receiving end of things, or it is as challenging as it is for his opponents. Like another has mentioned, not speaking for in game balancing, but the argument that Predator should win every single time due to being a “apex hunter” is flawed.

[Schoolboy_Skeptik]

The predator is supposed to be a stalker, not an invincible horror monster. That’s exactly why the 2018 movie was terrible. The enemy was too strong. It ruins the suspense. The base predator is very balanced in this game. The berserker, not so much.

[Wolfs0n]

Well then in that case I’m not the only one that missed the point.
Nowhere did I say Predator is supposed to win every time, Predators have gone down several times but every time it was EARNED.
Arnold outsmarted the original Predator, the cop in New York used the city scape to his advantage, the convicts on the game preserve world used the tribe’s arrogance against them.
Predator only wins if he kills the whole team anyway or self destructs, escaping is supposed to be the priority with actually killing him being an extremely rare stroke of luck, skill and wit.
There is no sense of accomplishment or victory in just gunning him down, just another body to the pile there’s no catharsis to it it gets boring once you know the Predator goes down that easily.

[Wolfs0n]

Yeah a stalker that’s about as stealthy as an air horn in a library, he’s never been invincible but going down in initial bursts from basic assault rifles?
No he’s not balanced and it’s too easy to spot him, you cannot say otherwise.

[Fenris]

I think you need to look up “suspense”. Suspense is tension built by fighting to overcome insurmountable odds like it was in f13th it’s not supposed to be easy hence why it was ‘suspenseful’ because it was HARD and required skill to survive.this game has no suspense because as of right now the predator does not pose a real threat. All the fireteams need is a knife and that’s it. That’s the definition of having ‘no suspense’.

[Drewgantka]

I feel the same way Wolfs0n feels honestly. The predator is a force to be reckoned with and the game does depict him or her as easy pickings. Ive been playing fireteam a lot to see the gaps everyone else sees but honestly yeah i died as a fireteam member but the predator almost always was put into second wind by just trying to kill me. 1 person not to mention i can just come back with reinforcements. I don’t fear the predator as fireteam I actively hunt him because I can. And I hate that I can! Also as for coming down and slicing and dicing predator 2 had him do that at least three times lol so he most definitely can just saying. Maybe there should be more fireteam member just weaker. Strength in numbers you know. With no reinforcements to make every kill mean something.

[Agent47]

True, but he didn’t in the 87 movie, which is their main inspiration for this game. Again he picked Dutch’s squad off one by one for a reason.

Skill does play a part in this game, a big part. And I’m not calling anyone unskilled, but you absolutely have to know what you’re doing and when to do it. But if you’re losing most of your health taking down just one player, you’re doing something a tad off or that one player you think you’re attacking is more like 2 or 3.

I just got done playing a round where I got killed because I messed up and thought I had a dude doing an objective by himself but he wasn’t alone, I just didn’t see his mudded teammates. I went for the kill and they pretty much lit me up. Put me in second win then chased my ass down(which I 100% agree is really really weak). So tactical error on my part.

[Schoolboy_Skeptik]

Only a knife? Against a plasma caster, against a net gun, against a spear, against a guided disk, trapped in a bear trap? Does anyone want to actually put effort into hunting?

[Fenris]

Yeah quite literally there are fireteams taking down zerkers with knives, also

1- one swipe of knife cuts net-net made useless

2- disc is slow and easily side stepped as well as limited control range like an rc car only cant go very far

3 spear- has gone through a metal tower when thrown right on the dot at an enemy, through two trees to a corner of the map stuck in a rock face, yeah not as reliable and all melee weapons can be parried pretty much for eternity

4 bear traps are pretty much only useful against inept fireteams and even then trying to just place in a path high chance it won’t work unless they are in a building and can cover every doorway but easy to see refraction and some have made use in combat in close quarters but that wouldn’t work as well against 4 at once in close range

Almost forgot most teams have become astute of plasma casters that they keep far enough apart that pred can down one but Before long he is already up and healed very quickly most a pred can do is hope to snag one at the exfil and that’s bout it

[Massacher]

Well said. They made him weak. If this game doesn’t get patches fast it’s going to be dead by the end of the week. At which point I’ll be asking for a refund.

[Fenris]

Yeah I’m taking a break the next couple days then I’ll continue trying to find something to unbalance the stack after

[Groxiverde]

This is not a horror game, it is an asymmetrical PvP game. Both sides must have a 50% chance of winning the match. If not, it would be quite unfair.
Balancing a 1v4 game is INCREDIBLY difficult, despite this, the developers did a very good job so far in my opinion, because as the predator, when you win you feel like you deserve it, and when you lose you feel like you could’ve done better.
Playing as fireteam is more or less the same. When you kill the predator, you feel that the predator could have done better and you did very well, and when you die, you feel that the predator did a good job and that your team did badly.
Honestly, I am really enjoying this game. Playing as the predator is difficult but very rewarding when you learn how to play properly. Every game I try different perks/items/weapons and I never get bored. And playing with friends is so much fun. I see myself playing this game for months, honestly.

[Drewgantka]

Yes the atmosphere of the first movie is definitely the inspiration but literally everything about the predator in this game takes things from all the movies. Most of his weapon wheel is made up of things introduced in predator 2. Therefore the way predator hunts and kills and is able to hunt and kill should be consistent with all the films. It’s different in something that isn’t a licensed franchise like DBD but with something like predator circumstantial rules have already been put in place. This is why it’s definitely an awesome concept but just a flawed execution. Don’t get me wrong I’m having fun majority of the time but I just knew this would happen because it’s multiplayer.

[Turok13]

“The predator is supposed to be a stalker” How can you stalk when you loudly growl every 5 seconds and stomp around like you have the mass of an African Elephant, and you can be spotted constantly.

[dinodude]

Comparing the movie with the game is batshit insane for me. I mean, in the movie, they didn’t know what a Predator was. They were picked of one by one yes, but did the Predator do that in 15 minutes? Did Dutch disarm the bomb when he downed him? Did the Predator kill everyone and then Dutch just respawned them with reinforcements?