Rage quitting ruining game.

#41

I really dont want forced crossplay.
Shit I already hate crossplay cause it ruins so many console versions cause most pc players are fkn graphic whores.

This obsession with graphics tends to ruin a lot of games.

Like conan exiles, warframe, these games have so many problems because they try to make everything run off the same engine.

I really wish they would stop this shit and just nsje two different versions all together.
And if the devs dont care about the console versions, then they can fuck off and not make it for console.

Honestly I think those devs should be sued cause its basically false advertising.

Point is Iā€™m just tired of consoless getting fucked over cause pc gets focused.

I want things to go back how they used to be.
Console games and pc games.

Less problems that way.

#42
Sorry, ranted a bit.

Honestly yeah I donā€™t think there is an easy fix gameplay-wise. One thing that will help would be more players. As most gamers know itā€™s not nice to ditch in a match where you can come back or it would mess with the opponentā€™s reward for getting the kill. Sans outlier matches such as cheaters or super laggy games. So more people, in general, would make those quitters feel less impactful.
But that would require a better game and better marketing.

Gameplay-wise there might be a few bandaids. Punishing quitters is definitely an option, but then you run the risk of punishing people who just disconnect by accident. Itā€™s hard for games to tell the difference between manually quitting and just a laggy connection. And if it can it would be as easy as exiting the game wholesale and coming back to avoid the penalty.

Making reinforcements easier would definitely help a ton. The way it is now a good pred can easily kill off an average ft before they reinforce. Maybe something where the fewer team members you have the faster you get it. So after losing the first guy you get the normal timer, after the second it gets cut in half, then for the last man standing itā€™s instant.

Another thing would be maybe a ā€œlast man standingā€ buff. Call it adrenaline for realism if you want. The last man standing gets a bit more survivability, heā€™s tougher, has more health, a bit faster, healing items do more, and a bit more damage to get the pred to back off. Nothing that could allow them to fight off the pred wholesale. But enough to make it easier for them to get away and reinforce and harder for the pred to just bulldoze the whole team in one. Add on a cool screen filter and a music change and you can make being the last man tense and exciting. Make them feel like Arnold being the last man in the jungle trying to survive. Then when they get the reinforce everyone still in gets a burst of XP and viriliam. Rewarding players for sticking to the game and putting their trust in the team. And of course this would only happen once per game. Basically a second wind for FT.

Though I also feel that it needs to be carefully balanced. if reinforce is easier the takeaway should be the team comes back at half health and only get half their gear back. (though they donā€™t lose any, if you had 2 med kits before you died you keep those 2 after reinforce.) That way the pred isnā€™t being worn down by the lengthened battle but the fireteam comes back full force.

You can also reward the pred for allowing a reinforcement, maybe they get double xp for killing someone a second time. Or even better they get viriliam since the pred is badly lacking in sources of V.

Speaking of which, unrelated, but it might be cool if the pred could ā€œstealā€ V from the fireteam. the FT wouldnā€™t actually lose any, but when you get the kill you get the amount of V that FT player had collected before you got the claim. Throw our preds a bone for sticking it through the wait time.

#43

wtf?

Dude games today are mainly focused at consoles. Thatā€™s why PC always has so many problems and they end up having to lower graphics because of poor optimization.

I still remember when Arkham Knight was released. PC version was a joke. It was re-released a year later when no one was playing it anymore.

When games are optimized properly no one lowers graphics. Go check how many players lower graphics on doom eternal. That game will run @ 60fps+ on a fucking 1050 on ultra settings

#44

Oh trust me, PHG runs like shit on PC, itā€™s not even remotely optimized. It runs better on PS5 than on my 6 core laptop.

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#45

game runs like shit even on a 2080

My best friend got a threadripper with a 3090ā€¦ guess what? even with that he will not get stable 144 @ 1440P.

The optimization of this game on PC is a fucking joke.

#46

I know. My main PC has watercooled Ryzen 5600x with OCā€™d RTX 3060 Ti. On high settings, frames go from 340ish and they drop to 140ish on the same map.

#47

I got a 2080, at max settings I get like 2-3 frames on plasma blast or any explosions. Red Dead Online runs better then this and you canā€™t even compare how good that one looks like.

FromTheHood Iā€™ve played a month back some SWTOR and people would quite or go afk in lots of games. After they did the stupid move of making daily not count on loss, its badā€¦

#48

Yes well is new, but itā€™s not the point Iā€™m trying to make.

This game is fucked on all platforms, we can all agree on that right?
@JelouGaming

But on some pcā€™s it runs better.
Ps5 had a serious upgrade so Iā€™m not surprised.

But im talking about the 2 games I mentioned.

This is my beef with crossplay and multi platform games, in the sense of being on pc and console.

Warframe being the best example.

In 2016, the game ran like a dream on ps4.
It was beautiful fun and great.

PC graphic whores started complaining shit wasnt shiny enough, they switched to a different engine mainly for visuals, and boom!

Ever since then,
Like 2 years back, wf runs like a sack of hot shit on ps4.

Honestly, it would be better for everyone,
If the devs dont want to take the time to make 2 fleshed out and optimized versions of a game, then stick to either pc or console.

So no side gets fucked.
But in almost every case Iā€™ve seen only console ends up suffering.

Give it I wanna say one more year.
PC will pass ps5. And boom, ps5 might be getting fucked over.

I really hope thatā€™s not the case tho.

I just want my games to run well.
Thatā€™s all.

#49

I think those games were both released for PC and ported for consoles. So their main focus was always PC. But letā€™s be honest, AAA games are aimed at consoles not PC.

#50

I played it for six years mate and left the game few months ago, never went back to it. They kept milking players for years with almost zero new content. SWTOR is basically their cash cow which they use to sponsor their other projects. Itā€™s a shame how the most expensive MMO in history with Star Wars IP, went down the drain 'cause of greedy EA and literally retarded BioWare decisions.

#51

Only played warframe for very little but from what you are saying there is that the console was holding the game back and the devs did what made sense in bringing up the game to standards. You canā€™t blame the devs because you are running on inferior hardware.

Every single new generation of console mainly focus on making games look better with the new tech, every single console player that buys the next gen, is a graphic whore by that standard. PC players put more money into a gfx card then 4 consoles. Its the same as all the people rushing and buying PS5 and even at insane prices because of the scalpersā€¦ I mean look at every new gen game with players drooling how good they lookā€¦

#52

I stopped playing for 3 years, subbed for a month, played the story and some pvp. Completely worth it.

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#53

Tried playing the game myself a few weeks back and had to quit after the first week. Didnā€™t sub but it was frustrating to see how much was tucked behind that paywall with little to no way to earn without dipping into oneā€™s pocketbook. And the story was boring in my opinion. Maybe it would have gotten better if I kept playing, but the time I did spent felt wasted and I didnā€™t feel like sticking out cause it might get better.

But agin thatā€™s just my opinion so I donā€™t blame anyone who did like it. It just wasnā€™t for me.

#54

I spent like 3 years playing SWTOR, left like 2 years ago. I keep wanting to go back but Iā€™m sticking FTP since the only reason I justified paying before was not having PSN or XBOX live to pay.

Game wasnā€™t bad for content, I left after the KOTFE storyline ran into the weird alliance thing but the updates were always significant back then

#55

Console was holding it back?
Bring it up to standards?

So fuck console players right?
This shit.
This which youā€™ve mentioned is a huge part of why games tend to fucking suck now a days.

Because too many fucking pieces of shits are obsessed with graphics and not for the game running smooth.

If they didnt care about it running well on console they should have never made a console version.
Thatā€™s just fucking greed and developers should be fucking punished for this shit.

Unfortunately with so many dumb ass graphic whore players who forget what the fuck real games are, this shit will never be fixed.

Such a stupid arguement Xan.

Ghost of tsushima looks great and runs well on ps4.
So it can be done.

The problem is lazy greedy devs and stupid fucking players.

You literally cant argue that, if theyā€™re not going to put in the effort to make it work on all released platforms, then they should only focus one.

And yeah, this is something that Iā€™m extremely fucking pissed about.
I shouldnā€™t get fucked over because I prefer consoles, just like a pc player shouldnt get fucked over cause they prefer pc.

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#57

Replace PC with PS 4 and PS4 with PS3 in your argument. What? Fuck PS3 players because some asshats had to have a PS4?

Games need up to par graphics to be attractive, of course if you have only that you will fail, like Anthem did, still those are a massive part of a game. The vast majority of PS players drool over games with insane gfx. Like Horizon Zero Dawn 2.

Players are not stupid for demanding what they want, its a service, give me X or me quit and find something I like. PC players won there, PS4 players lost. You can be pissed at the devs but not the PC players who demanded a service for the money they put in. The way PS4 should ā€œargueā€ with the devs is by not playing it if its having issues but I fail to see how its PC players fault the game had issues for PS4.

Oh and I donā€™t know what improvements were made to the engine that ended up having issues on consoles. Yes, GOT looks great on PS4, I have a PS4 and Iā€™ve finished the game.

#58

KOTFE/KOTET was the last big expansion and it came out in 2015 if I remember it right.

After that, we got like 30 minutes ā€œexpansionā€ in 2019 and a follow up to that expansion in 2020 which was also 20-30 minutes long. EA even announced last year that they made over 1B from SWTOR.

Whole Anthem shitshow was funded via SWTOR, hell, even that leading game producer that killed half of the SWTOR playerbase with his stupid decisions, made Anthem DOA and got fired shortly after.

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#59

Oh come on man, its far more then 30 minutes, FAR more. As I said, Iā€™ve played it a 1-2 months back. The story with you being a loyalist or a saboteur is very long. Iā€™ve also enjoyed it.

#60

Look you either see it, or dont.
No dude should get fucked over.
And ps3 to ps4 is different.