reinforcements rework idea

#1

How about when you use the radio instead of Magicly warping in The players after what? 30 seconds of standing still rear the radio a Heli comes in and you get the cut scene over again of droping in and its Random witch heli spawn you get.

also so that Heal spaming isnt as much of an issue how much making it where you only get Half or half as much use of your items.

making it so that if you died it hurt your team instead of a set back.

Now when you debate/discuss this do so with the mind set of Blance and Fairness to BOTH sides not just what you would want as the fire time. the point is too get Rid of alot of the freebees for the Fire team and make them work for their wins a bit more.

Thoughts?

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#2

The helicopter instead of a star trek teleporter yes, I don’t see why you would strip there equipment I personally don’t mind Fireteam getting reinforced with all there gear. I would like it if the loadout you originally used was locked and you had to select from one of the other five loadouts but then again if this was a mechanic people would make 2 loadout with their favourite gear

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#3

well i just dont believe that you should get a full reset after fucking up and dying. it would make sense to strip some gear after you died. death in the game should mean something, but in this game its like getting a yellow card you just take your seat wait 2-3 mins and your back again with no down sides your just back undoing the work of the predator. you could be the best predator in this game and have an awesome fire team and take 8 mins to kill 2 guys then they press a button and the first 8 mins of the game is wasted. i dont agree with that.

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#4

Ok but lets go from the in-game perspective, why would reinforcment’s get sent in without all their gear? Reinforcment’s really don’t bother me when I’m playing Pred if I’m against a bad team I will tend to kill 2 or 3 of them and then let them reinforce. If I find I’m against a good team I will be careful and try and get them to waste it on only reinforcing 1 guy. If people struggle with reinforcements I recommend trying that technique obviously you sometimes get a team that won’t bother to reinforce 1 person so you really need to pressure them if that’s the case.

#5

hey man if the net from the net gun can be cut because we gotta think only gameplay wise then i dont its too much to ask the same thing for the other side. right?

like in all of the movies the net was uncutabble and was so sharp it would kill its pray in seconds after coming into contact with it. but when it comes too other things its gotta be lore related? you see my where i have a problem with it?

either think gameplay or think lore either way is fine but if they start mixing and matching Blance will quickly become an issue.

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#6

I feel like the only difference this would make is the guy at the reinforcement radio would be an easier kill. Even with less gear they can just resupply at areas around the map while you’re focused on killing the guy at the station so it wouldn’t make too much of a difference imo.

#7

no it would mean if the predator is hot on your tail downs you and waits out the timer for the reinforcements to be wasted then kills him that he can get a free kill then, as you should, thats another thing they thought gameplay wise but not lore wise that guy should be safe because Spawk beamed down 3 guys to kill the predator? fuck why even use a heli if you got that kinda tech laying around. just beam em in and out when they do their jobs i dont get it.

see my problem? it just feels cheap to have too let some one Rez their whole team because you dont have the time to safely fight down and kill the guy who got his team back its also cheap that once their back its like the first 3 kills didnt mean anything you just invalidated 3 of the predators kills for no reason other then the devs would be worryed the predator would be so strong.

look devs i get it i really do, but you cant fix problems by thinking 2d all the time " just give him more health or give him more health or give that guy more Damage or less damage" in this case it makes more sense to just add more options like, ok what if the predator gets an option instead of arming the bomb he can call for back up and beam down a predator with full hp, see why thats busted? you as a fire team memeber would have seconds to deal with this and if the predator wasted your needles befor hand your fucked. everyone can agree that would be unfair so why is it fair that the fire team gets the very same thing?

i just dont get it. how is the humans better at cheating death then a space alien with some how “better” tech then us. just i said it befor and i’ll say it again

I dont feel like im playing predator i feel like im playing the spy from Splinter Cell Blacklist.

and thats bad because in that game it was even teams 4v4 in this game its uneven and they thought that if they gave the predator the health of 4 guys that its fair. i would be if the damage of the fire team was dummy down to match that. but its not one guy can deal enough damage to kill a predator in seconds…

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#8

Oh I agree completely. But while I think your idea about the reinforced FT coming back in random spots from a chopper with less gear is good, I don’t think it will change the whole mechanic too much.

I think something bigger needs to be changed so for example maybe just one guy is reinforced, or perhaps there’s different stations and each one only brings one guy back and you have to go to each and every one if you want your whole team back etc.

But in a perfect world we wouldn’t have this stupid revive mechanic that punishes the pred for completing his objective and rewards the fireteam for loosing lol.

#9

I mean this is a different topic now, firstly I agree the net should do slightly more damage. And if you want to go lore wise to my recollection the net has been used a total of 4 times in movies twice in which it has been escaped from admittedly with a Pred disk and xenomorph blood, the other 2 times one guy was pinned to the wall and then shot up by his own crew and the second time we saw it break a knife which you could say is because the metal the net used is stronger but you could also argue that the metal in the knife was weaker due to the extreme cold of the Antarctic. Plus with the inclusion of Dutch’s knife that one definitely has the ability to cut the net being a former Pred wrsitblade. Maybe the nets shouldn’t have self release but then if they didn’t it would become a one hit weapons against the last FT memebr

#10

like each time they want to Reinforce they gotta run around the map for one guy at a time? yea i find that fair for sure.

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#11

be great for the FT as well as they can keep spaming it just you wont have a huge group all the time.

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#12

Yeah that’s what I had in mind. It would definitely make it feel tense trying to bring back your team.

#13

Or maybe a parachute scene XD… lmfao…

#14

yea that would be cool too but i strongly feel that having the fire team press a button and wait for the game too say " ok heres your team back, predator needs to restart now here you go" god i hate that in video games picture minecraft but some one just because they can do it spams wither spawnings on your house to be a dick. thats pretty much the same thing here resetting your hard work for nothing.

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#15

Yeah it’s a sucky feature and it’s the main reason I don’t really play predator. I’m not going to be put up against a good fireteam, bust my ass off killing them just for a middle finger to pop up on my screen saying “fuck you” and having to do it again but this time at a disadvantage.

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#16

i honestly think between that and the bugs and glitches its not fun playing Predator.

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#17

I agree it just isn’t fun playing predator because of those reasons.

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#18

Love that idea. I belive it was mentioned before and totally ignored by devs…

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#19

Nah because in their eyes there like " fuckin really? we got shit tones a bugs in the game and their worryed about Reinforcements? the fuck outa here" dude i’d make the argument that Blance is more importent then bug fixing because if the game is Prefectly blanced yet loaded with bugs most people wouldnt use the bugs because they dont need to its fun not too, but if the game has no bugs but fuck all for blance then the game is annoying for one side and borring for the other.

so i mean, take notes man… im pretty sure your player base knows how your game works better then you guys do seeing as they play it every day sure you can tell me how the coding works and how you came up with the idea of each item but i bet you, they cant tell me witch is the best map for Predator and why. i bet you they cant tell me each of the exploits i bet they cant tell me the best build in the game for both predator and fire team.

so im not saying that dont know their shit bout the game ( sorta) but what i am sayin is they dont know there shit about the games Blance. look Hunt show down does the same shit just listen too the player dismiss ideas because they think its dumb piss off the player base it dropes down to 15k players and when they want more funding drop a skin and new weapon and pay a few youtubers too talk about it and bamm back up too 45-60k players for about 2weeks and then back to 15K

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#20

i dont mean to flame the devs love the game its a great idea i wanna see it do well but god damm i gotta talk about this man

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