Slam damage is unnecessary

I’ve been playing without using slam recently and discovered that the game is actually fairly balanced without it. So a simple change for the better would be to take the damage of slam to about 10 or 15 but extend the range of the blinding effect and reduce the root time. This would make slam a melee initiator, rather than a weapon as it is currently used by dishonorable predators.

Also, a little video of how to deal with campers without using roof slamming.

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I think it needs to be balanced either utility or damage.

Well played.

I am also trying to reduce reliance on the slam.

Bit of experimenting today with a buddy has led us to realise standing or crouching completely still in cloak makes you invisible to fireteam so now I know at least that I can be patient and not have to keep moving all of the time…

I would welcome the change to remove/reduce slam damage and make the blinding and stun effect have a larger range.

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I think the blind is fine, I think the AoE good. So is the stun.

Things I would look at is full damage through roofs/walls is kinda strong and spamming friendly.

Utility damage. If it only destroyed ammo and med kits, even with minimal damage it would still serve as a good anti camp utility and a strong purpose.

The damage definitely needs a look at through walls and roofs cause the spamming.

Open area is difficult to balance. It becomes a question of what is the smash? An attack on its own? Should it have a different purpose?

How do we best reduce its spam capabilities?

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@WhiteKala78
I guess giving the slam a steep drop in damage would make it a little less spammable and solve the roof slam problem. So max current damage of 95 at point blank range about 42.5 damage at 5m and 0 damage at 10m. That would be a good starting point for a moderate nerf, but still leaving the door open for predators that want to “smash” their prey.

As I play lower health FT members, not being downed by Slam quite so often would be nice, it feels very cheap when it does happen.

As Pred I agree it isn’t necessary to do crazy damage with it and have it still be effective at keeping a team from hiding in a building. So I don’t think a reduction of damage would be unbalanced.

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hahaahahaha human technological frailty is always so so sweet >;p

The only thing I really want is for it to stop going trough walls/roofs (plural!). When the predator jumps next to me, even doing massive damage, he is staggered a bit and we can light him up. I mean, I am outside of a house, he slams on top of the building and I get hit OUTSIDE, some 2 meters from the building… It just feels massively cheap…

Slam is the main weapon vs a strong team. Without it you stand 0% chance. You don’t have time to try and hit them with your weapons that all require some leading. With slam you can get in some decent damage and then maybe get off an arrow or a melee hit or two.

They really need ranked and then just have slam be terrible for pub play and useful for ranked.

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“Dishonorable predators” lololol

I pred main and I never use slam, even for campers.
There’s enough splash damage from the caster & the root effect doesn’t make it viable against a good FT.

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says a person who skips delay animations after a slam (deanimate)

It’s ok I know you don’t know what it’s like to face a stupidly strong FT. The slam animation cancel was one thing that gave the pred a small chance. But that’s gone now.

skill helps

So does game balance

I personally find the game quite balanced as it is. Obvioulsy there’s a shit load of bugs that can break any match but I don’t find the balance off.
I play on PC and often play against well coordinated PC teams using comms.
The out come depends on the game. If you play well you win, if you don’t you don’t.

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Then you’re not playing the uber teams. The balance there is non existent. It’s hard to comprehend it until you’ve faced these teams

You’re making a lot of assumptions in that statement.
You’re implying you being destroyed by a good team means I’ve never faced one.
Sorry sunshine but that doesn’t cut it.

I’ve faced many insanely good teams, sometimes I win, sometimes I loose.
It’s the nature of playing any pvp game.

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Have you played the Russian team with dice, prozipix? There’s also a French team that has a steamer that I can’t recall their name right now. You won’t beat them if they have their full team. Happy to say I’m wrong if you have a video of you doing so.

yes it’s us). but it’s not normal when a predator flies into you every time. when you walk in the open. and instantly runs away without using other weapons.